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What Andrew Sullivan Doesn't Get About Palin
the atlantic ^ | 5/11/11 | Joshua Green

Posted on 05/11/2011 4:59:11 PM PDT by Nachum

I'm glad Andrew Sullivan has responded to my Sarah Palin piece. You'd hate to write as much about her as I did and not have it register on the Dish. That would be like if you were a large white whale and Ahab just ignored you.

Andrew's response covers a lot of terrain, and I agree with his point that Alaska is essentially a socialist state, or more accurately, a ward of the federal government (for more on that, see this excellent Charles Homans piece in the Washington Monthly). In fact, its perverse tax structure is one reason why Alaska became such a corrupt mess--it levies no sales or income tax, and relies almost exclusively on oil taxes and royalties (plus the feds). So it's no wonder that the oil interests' political power grew to the point of corruption. But that wasn't Palin's doing--and she, more than anyone, fought against it.

Andrew's other big gripe is, I'm afraid, a bit of a straw man woman. He suggests that I've presented Palin as being "deep down, a bipartisan progressive reformer, foiled by a cynical McCain campaign," some sort of pointy-headed wonk who'd "rather be discussing healthcare policy at the New America Foundation." (Heh.) Furthermore, I am "reckless" for not realizing that:

Palin is not and never was driven by policy but resentments... That oil tax was a way to get back at the Republicans she hated (and who had humiliated her), and to win power by a populist appeal, backed by a virulent Christianism - hostile to the moneyed elites of the GOP and unmentioned by Josh.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aces; alaska; andrew; palin; populist; socialiststate; sullivan; taxes
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1 posted on 05/11/2011 4:59:15 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Sullivan is just pissed because as he was watching the 2008 GOP Convention Sarah showed up to give her speech in the same dress he was wearing.


2 posted on 05/11/2011 5:04:10 PM PDT by Fledermaus (As long as John Boehner is Speaker, conservatives are screwed. He's a coward and a crybaby.)
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To: Nachum

He is obsessed because he lusts after her, and that is confusing him.


3 posted on 05/11/2011 5:06:22 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Nachum

Neither one of these two PDS losers understand Sarah Palin.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 5:07:01 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You stole my post ... :)


5 posted on 05/11/2011 5:09:19 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Nachum

Volumes could be filled on what Sullivan doesn’t “get” about Palin.


6 posted on 05/11/2011 5:10:19 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
-"...necessary discipline to be a serious presidential candidate."

"necessary discipline" / "serious candidate" - some 'pedestal, huh, Joshua? You mean, like those exhibited by more "disciplined" and "serious" candidates like...

- Albert 'I invented the Internet' Gore
- John 'I earned my medals' Kerry
- John 'the Maverick' McCain

7 posted on 05/11/2011 5:14:27 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; All
None of the lame-streams enemamedia get her like we do, yet they fear her....

They do not get our conservatism they never will, but they do get her ability to go over them and not through them as they try to play "The College of Cardinals" as they pick the successor.

She is the metaphorical Martin Luther and it scares the Merde out of them.

They know in their guts she cannot be stopped.

It is their worse nightmare, Reagan in a Mini-Skirt that will nix all their Utopian fanstasies...

January 23rd-ish 2013, it will suck to be Chrissy, Angrea, and Maddcow....

8 posted on 05/11/2011 5:19:36 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Fledermaus

I nearly choked on my Homemade chocolate chip ice cream thanks to that answer!


9 posted on 05/11/2011 5:19:51 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: FourPeas

There’s a lot Sullivan doesn’t get period, like human sexuality.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 5:20:48 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: Fledermaus

“Sarah showed up to give her speech in the same dress he was wearing.”

LOL! That is funny!


11 posted on 05/11/2011 5:27:50 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: Nachum

Opinionators get into a simplistic love-hate thing with public figures. Sullivan doesn’t want to hear anything bad about Obama and won’t consider anything good about Palin. He doesn’t get that he’s half a world away from Alaska and knows nothing about local conditions there. That’s a temptation for all pundits — they start to believe that the world is as simple as their columns — but gays in particular tend to be pretty narrowly focused on simple “yay-boo” interpretations nowadays.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 5:47:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Nachum
How come it's these gay blades that are most affected by PDS? Perhaps it's his AIDS condition that has affected his mental function. Or, maybe it's his spouse, Aaron, that requires that Andrew profess his hatred of women inorder to renew his fidelity towards only him. It's easier to regurgitate the swill bubbling up in the web and reaffirm his devotion to the cult of perverse sex.

The loving couple:


13 posted on 05/11/2011 5:53:22 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Nachum
How come it's these gay blades that are most affected by PDS? Perhaps it's his AIDS condition that has affected his mental function. Or, maybe it's his spouse, Aaron, that requires that Andrew profess his hatred of women inorder to renew his fidelity towards only him. It's easier to regurgitate the swill bubbling up in the web and reaffirm his devotion to the cult of perverse sex.

The loving couple:


14 posted on 05/11/2011 5:53:30 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: jonrick46

My night would have been just fine without that photo!

I can ‘almost’ get the gay blades being affected by PDS, what I don’t understand is other women. Hearing all the chatter about jealousy is just not ringing true for me - it’s something else and I’ve yet to get an honest answer from any of my friends as to what and why they suffer as they do.


15 posted on 05/11/2011 6:14:20 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Nachum

Joshua Green, you are overlooking the fact that after Palin got her start as an excellent Governor, she joined the McCain ticket and boosted McCain’s numbers.

McCain lost the election. He had Palin on a leash so she couldn’t do anything. To say Palin lost the election is idiotic.


16 posted on 05/11/2011 6:18:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Relativism is the intellectual death knell of liberal ideology.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
I can ‘almost’ get the gay blades being affected by PDS, what I don’t understand is other women. Hearing all the chatter about jealousy is just not ringing true for me - it’s something else and I’ve yet to get an honest answer from any of my friends as to what and why they suffer as they do.

Jealousy.

Palin HAS the good-looking macho husband AND an active career AND a good homelife AND the children they either can't ever attract, couldn't keep attracted, have already rejected through divorce, or have aborted out earlier in their life.......

17 posted on 05/11/2011 6:22:31 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: jonrick46

I am rinsing my eyeballs with bleach.

“loving couple” bleh


18 posted on 05/11/2011 6:23:25 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: reasonisfaith

“she joined the McCain ticket and boosted McCain’s numbers.”

It has long been my contention that McCain would have lost by another 5-10% of the popular vote and who knows what in the electoral without Gov. Palin.


19 posted on 05/11/2011 6:25:32 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: jonrick46

Why do gay couples resemble each other. It’s very nearly comical.


20 posted on 05/11/2011 6:25:35 PM PDT by Oratam
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