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To: Windflier
The 14th Amendment addresses who can be a citizen, not who can be a Natural Born Citizen. This really isn’t as complicated as folks like you are trying to make it, ...

This is a distinction without a difference. If the Supreme Court agreed, they wouldn't have sworn him in. If any lawyer, judge or legislator agreed, they'd be pushing this through the courts. The GOP, Hillary Clinton, anyone had means and motive to disqualify Obama, were your interpretation correct.

I get that you have a dissenting opinion. What I don't get is that you think it's legally binding.

If you’re willing to concede your conservative principles, and ignore the fact that Obama and the left are trampling on something as basic as the constitutional requirements for presidential eligibility, then you’ve already surrendered to the pressure of their political correctness.

It's not conceding any principles to acknowledge reality. I don't believe most California gun laws are Constitutional, but the state of California does. It's one thing to push to get those laws more in alignment with the views of the Founders. It's another to imagine they don't exist.

Whether or not you like it, the Supreme Court and Congress decided that Obama is qualified to hold office, based off of current understanding of the law. No political opponents of Obama have chosen to contest this, based off of current understanding of the law.

Birthers need to come to grips with this reality if you have any desire to defeat Obama. Otherwise, you're just wasting resources in fighting a battle he won years ago.

111 posted on 05/08/2011 10:35:26 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf

BO’s birth certificate states his father’s nationality as Kenyan.

This is a forgery and a lie, since Obama was born in 1961 and Kenya was formed as a country in 1964.


126 posted on 05/08/2011 11:04:20 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Steel Wolf
It's not conceding any principles to acknowledge reality. I don't believe most California gun laws are Constitutional, but the state of California does. It's one thing to push to get those laws more in alignment with the views of the Founders. It's another to imagine they don't exist.

I understand the same things you do, but I simply have a different reaction to the wayward state of our nation.

The Constitution is the foundation which supports all statute law, but our Founding Principles are what supports the Constitution.

If high court rulings and constitutional amendments have violated our Founding Principles and the spirit of our Constitution, they need to be thrown out.

To allow these aberrations to become the supreme 'law' of the land, is to give up those ideals which we (should) hold most sacred.

This is where I'm coming from, and it's where I personally stand on all these questions.

138 posted on 05/08/2011 11:25:24 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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