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Let Every Vote Count Except The Nun's
JSOnline.com ^ | 5/5/2011 | Bill Glauber and Jesse Garza

Posted on 05/05/2011 5:17:15 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca

The recount for the state Supreme Court race has come to this: Votes from nuns have been thrown out.

The twist in the race between Justice David Prosser and challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg came during the recount in Sauk County. There, ballots of Cistercian nuns from the Valley of Our Lady Monastery in Prairie du Sac were rejected...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kloppenburg; prosser; unions; wisconsin
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It's hard to image this. I hope Rush or Hannity will take this story nationwide.
1 posted on 05/05/2011 5:17:23 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: Hamilcar_Barca

After reading the article it doesn’t sound like an underhanded deal. I see no need to sic the media on them.


2 posted on 05/05/2011 5:24:54 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: Hamilcar_Barca
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3 posted on 05/05/2011 5:27:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Hamilcar_Barca; Mind-numbed Robot

“The Prosser campaign made two appeals to have the ballots counted, including early Wednesday, but they were turned down by the board of canvassers, Bolin said.”

I’m not sure of the law but why would Prosser think it was okay to appeal twice?


4 posted on 05/05/2011 5:29:51 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Hamilcar_Barca

I do see the argument they’re making in regard to no witness signature; however, if they’re doing that with these [absentee] ballots then ALL [absentee] ballots need to be held to the same standard.

Ah, but some piggies are more equal than others...


5 posted on 05/05/2011 5:30:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bronxville

You’re right! They should have doubled the votes Prosser lost from this chicanery, just to teach him a lesson! How dare he appeal twice. We’ll fix that trickster.


6 posted on 05/05/2011 5:33:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama lied again: Osama is still alive!)
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7 posted on 05/05/2011 5:35:05 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Hamilcar_Barca

Wouldn’t these votes help Kloppenburg.


8 posted on 05/05/2011 5:37:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Hamilcar_Barca

Statement from the Prosser campaign:

Statement of Brian Schimming, director, Justice Prosser’s Recount Effort, regarding the disenfranchisement of votes of 18 nuns from the Valley of our Lady Monastery in Prairie du Sac, Sauk County:

“While we have been reluctant to make public comments during the recount period, the Kloppenburg campaign’s attack on the votes of 18 nuns from the Valley of our Lady Monastery in Prairie du Sac is wrong at best and totally reprehensible at worst.

“This recount is costing Wisconsin taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars already. There is to date not one shred of evidence whatsoever that it will change the outcome of the election. To make this extremely costly and sorry spectacle even worse by challenging the legitimate votes of 18 nuns at a monastery is a breathtaking abuse of the recount process.”

“I would simply ask Ms. Kloppenburg to act at the most basic level of decency; apologize to the 18 nuns who reside at the monastery for her campaign’s interference with their right to vote, withdraw her objection and ask that the ballots be reinstated.”

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/121344379.html


9 posted on 05/05/2011 5:43:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Great clarifying update. Thanks smoothsailing.


10 posted on 05/05/2011 5:57:13 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: smoothsailing

Well, I am a Republican and a Prossser supporter. I am also a trained election examiner. In this case he is wrong. All absentee ballots must be witnessed.

Now, where I’d quibble is how these votes were eliminated. How come the non-witnessed votes were not rejected before they were ever cast? The witnessing signature is on the outside of the ballot envelope and it’s easy to see whether they have been witnessed, or not. In fact it has been known that the city clerk will call the voter before the election and tell them to get down to city hall and get somone to witness the ballot, if the missing signature is noticed before election day.


11 posted on 05/05/2011 6:00:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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12 posted on 05/05/2011 6:02:24 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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13 posted on 05/05/2011 6:08:19 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nickcarraway

It would probably depend on the order and age of the Nuns. Old Nuns seem to be generally liberal. Younger Nuns seem to be more conservative, like priests.

Freegards


14 posted on 05/05/2011 6:18:08 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: bronxville

The article is pretty short on information such as the vote difference between the two. Perhaps this one small town is used as the wedge to get a hand count of the total vote. As I recall, too lazy to go back and reread the article, they were already starting that process.


15 posted on 05/05/2011 6:22:56 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Just an afterthought: If these nuns are cloistered, as the article says, why are they even voting? If sealed off from the outside world how did they even know an election was going on?


16 posted on 05/05/2011 6:28:41 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The nuns live a contemplative, monastic life and support themselves by baking and distributing altar breads, according to their website.

Democrat Gets Nuns’ Votes Tossed in Wisconsin Recount

I bet the nuns don't belong to the bakers union, that's the problem.

17 posted on 05/05/2011 7:26:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Email of the day, from the Prosser folks:

Charlie-

 In Sauk County, there’s a convent, Valley of our Lady Monastery that is inhabited by 18 Cistercian nuns.  These nuns take a vow of silence, with their main occupation being the making the communion wafers. I am not making this up, the website couldn’t be better:  http://www.nunocist.org/page2.html.  The majority of these nuns stay at the Monastery their entire life…living the simplest of simple lives.
 
Every election the Town of Sumpter Clerk, Donna Ziegler, drops off 18 ballots so the nuns can vote.  She later picks them up, prior to the election in a single, large, sealed envelope—not opening the large envelope prior to the election.
 
This year, she opened the large enveloped and removed the ballots…counted them, and included them as part of the total 24 absentee ballots for the town.
 
Fast forward to the recount….last Friday it was discovered that the absentee ballots cast by the nuns didn’t include witness signatures…and no one noticed prior to the election.  The Kloppenburg team argued that the ballots should be thrown out—never mind that the GAB has never enforced lack of witness signature as grounds for throwing out a ballot with any regularity—and was successful.
 
Yesterday, the canvas board reconsidered—bringing in the Town Clerk (Ziegler) to discuss the situation, and she very passionately objected to the dismissal—stating she knows these women, trusts them and has always handled the nun’s absentee ballots the same way.  Again, the canvas board after a long and somewhat contentious conversation voted to reject the ballots—at the insistence of the Kloppenburg attorney.
 
They were forced to “draw down” among the 24 absentee ballots, and Prosser lost 14 while Klopp lost 4.
 
It is my understanding that the canvasing board may have “seen the light” and was going to possibly review the decision once again this morning.  I have not heard if they’ve reversed the decision.
 
This is why Kloppenburg’s goons justify a million dollar (plus) recount…to make sure the votes of nuns are counted.
 
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Listener emails:
 

I have been an observer in the Sauk County Recount room.

The left is rabid to block anything pro Prosser. I wasn’t there today but know Prosser’s attorney has tried several times to get the Nuns’ votes counted.

The first day of the recount was relatively peaceful but that changed quickly to a level of hostility that forced the staff to set new rules of conduct.

I’ll be back there tomorrow afternoon
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TARGETING THE NUNS

18 posted on 05/05/2011 7:53:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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