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To: Gilbo_3

They may very well do that eventually, but it’s not in the spec now. People have been watching this sort of stuff for just this reason. Any makes that do record that data have different and very proprietary tools to pull the data with and they are emphatically not compatible with each other - yet.

In fact, it’s gotten so bad that many independent shops are complaining about the dozens of thousands of dollars they have to spend on new diagnostic gear every time someone releases a new generation of cars. The Ford VCM diagnostic kit, for example, is $5K for the very basic hardware, but it’s well over $12K for one that can do most things you’d want PLUS the annual subscription. BMW’s DME-compatible gear is even worse - you used to be able to buy a house for what they want for that thing. VW has a cheap and easy one that’s just a simple cable to your computer, though. Point is there’s no unified standard for this stuff yet and there’s no way in hell the government will be able to get your existing car to rat on you at the gas station using its existing computer. Easier to just use a GPS/RFID box for existing cars and decree a new standard for future vehicles.


290 posted on 05/05/2011 7:13:27 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
thanks Sir...obviously i havent been doin much hands on driveability for awhile, thinkin that there wasnt that much proprietary info that was untouched by the mandates on the connector pins...

for the tech it sucks still, equipment wise...but im almost glad that they [manufacturers] are still greedy cpitalists and protecting their shops and revenues...

appreciate the feedback sir, i can loosen the velcro a bit on my tinfoil...for a minute...

318 posted on 05/06/2011 6:50:45 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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