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To: fr_freak; Steel Wolf

Someone added post 392 rocks. I disagree. I added some other keywords, but...

I will say that the post by Steel Wolf (for Huck’s position) and fr_freak’s post (against) are truly the best on this thread. Lots of FReepers argee with you both.

We can’t all be right. But you two expressed yourselves very well.

Thank you both.


646 posted on 05/03/2011 12:42:28 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Responsibility2nd; fr_freak
I don't know that there's anything in post 162 I really disagree with, or that conflicts with post 392. Cloward/Piven, intentionally through malice or unintentionally through incompetence, is rapidly eroding America from the inside. Fr_freak is most certainly right about where we're heading. What will likely happen in a few years in American cities will make our worst days in Baghdad and Mosul look like vacations. And we had some pretty bad days.

That really has nothing to do with the successful raid on UBL this weekend. That's the trap many FReepers find themselves in. If you view everything through the prism of Obama running America aground, and it warps your perspective. Obama could cure cancer, and people would be upset because it would help his reelection odds. That's not a healthy way to live.

Some might feel like the imminent crash is reason to abandon reason, cut dialogue with society at large, and head to the trenches early. When that day comes, I'll be there, showing you all how to swing. ;-)

Still, future events notwithstanding, today is a good day to be an American, and a bad day to be an Islamic terrorist. My hat's off to JSOC, and (SIGINT gods forgive me) the HUMINT derived from the CIA. If Obama did nothing but authorize the hit, then he finally did something right in his miserable life.

I personally don't think it's particularly noble to hate on an American military success because you don't like the domestic policies of the politician who authorized it. That's a point lefties needed to hear several years ago, and one that some on the right need to hear today. Nobility aside, if suspecting JSOC (the most conservative part of a conservative military) of being party to an illegal and easily disprovable scam to politically benefit President Obama is what passes for "intelligent" these days, I'm glad to be considered an idiot.

659 posted on 05/03/2011 1:29:22 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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