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To: wintertime
We can give up the fight for truth

No dice. You need to fight for conservatism, not various versions of artifact provinance. A brief snapshot of philosphy: you can only believe evidence that you have in hand. You can believe other people's evidence if they have earned your trust in some way. While Obama does not have my trust, AP does to some extent. Their scan of the document negates the pixel size and other arguments (layers in the PDF version, etc). But I don't want to debate that here because that is not about "truth" at all, just about theories of artifacts which we can't personally examine. Much better to stick to the truth that Obama sucks and needs to be stopped by all methods at our disposal. Birtherism is one method, but a very ineffective one.

367 posted on 05/03/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

The AP has never made a scan of the claimed document. They were given a packet of 6 photocopies: the green copy, the white copy, 2 pages of Obama’s lawyer’s request, one page of Obama’s request, and one page of Fuddy’s response. The white copy has no sign of a seal anywhere. The green copy has a very faint, indistinct circle.

In addition, there was what claimed to be a photo of the green copy. The scan of that photo was in various web articles and shows no sign of a seal anywhere. Apparently no reporter who was there bothered to check for a seal or to get a photo clearly showing the seal.

There was a photo of a reporter with the “white copy” photocopy that he was given in the packet. No sign of a seal. And where did that white copy come from anyway? If it was one of the certified copies the HDOH had sent (one a white copy and one a green copy) then it should have had some sign of a seal. It doesn’t. If it was made from the green copy, how did they get all the green out?

Those 2 kinds of photos are the only thing the AP had anything to do with. Everything else that they had was a photocopy from the White House.

But I do realize this is not the place to discuss this so if you’d prefer to discuss privately through freepmail or to go to a different thread, that would be better.


456 posted on 05/03/2011 9:04:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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