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Despite DNA evidence, some doubt bin Laden really dead
Seattle Times ^ | May 2, 2011 | Matea Gold, Eryn Brown and David S. Cloud

Posted on 05/02/2011 8:57:48 PM PDT by UniqueViews

Within hours of the raid on Osama bin Laden's Pakistan compound, the CIA had used 21st technology to get "a virtually 100 percent DNA match" on the dead man. But something out of another century may come back to haunt the United States: the al-Qaida leader's burial at sea.

Conspiracy theorists on the left and right were quick to insist bin Laden was either still alive or had been dead for years, pouncing on the government's decision to slide the body of the world's most wanted man off a board into the Arabian Sea.

The burial at sea largely followed widely accepted interpretations of Islamic law taking care not to anger the mainstream Muslim community, said Ebrahim Moosa, a professor of Islamic studies at Duke University in North Carolina.

With only a small group of witnesses, a military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a "native speaker," the official said.

The Islamic tradition of a quick burial was the subject of intense debate in Iraq in 2003 when U.S. forces embalmed the bodies of Saddam Hussein's two sons after they were killed in a firefight. Their bodies later were shown to media.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; binladendead; burial; cindysheehan; conspiracytheory; deather; deathers; islamicburial; islamiclaw; obama; osama; wot
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To: mylife
I don’t trust this guy at all.

I don't either. But I do trust our soldiers. I also trust it's not in the best interest of the Pakistani government to expose itself to such an embarrassment just to help Obama with his poll numbers.

I have absolutely no doubt. But if I only had Obama's words to go by... I would have doubt.

61 posted on 05/02/2011 9:46:14 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

That’s your right to do so.


62 posted on 05/02/2011 9:49:24 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: mylife

Yes, it does.

Rest well.


63 posted on 05/02/2011 9:50:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Sienovan

“In my experience, Islamic tradition in this case would call for his naked body being dragged through the streets of New York City behind a NYFD fire truck.”

Works for me. Maybe hang his body from the Brooklyn Bridge afterwards.


64 posted on 05/02/2011 9:52:32 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Salamander

And it’s very understandable why you or others would have your doubts. Obama’s the cause of those doubts for hiding so much of his past from the public.

I don’t blame anybody for their doubting what they’ve been told since sunday night.


65 posted on 05/02/2011 9:53:12 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: freedumb2003

>> “I am OK with the Certificate of Live Death.” <<

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Snick....


66 posted on 05/02/2011 9:54:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: tsowellfan

I trust the troops too but Soldiers get paid to shoot and shut up.

Pakistan may be getting the bold heave Hoecause AQ’s new home in Egypt awaits.


67 posted on 05/02/2011 9:55:39 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: meatloaf

Ewwwww do we have to burn it first? Like they did to our dead?

Oh wait we don’t do that crap because we are evolved humans who respect life.


68 posted on 05/02/2011 9:55:54 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: tsowellfan

The admin themselves said they are 99.9 percent certain. While that number is impressive, is does leave doubt, however small. It’s not just saying Obama is a liar thus this is made up, it’s saying ok the operation went down but the whole world needs to know for sure they got the right guy.


69 posted on 05/02/2011 9:56:36 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: UniqueViews

The Pakis knew last minute, US embarrassed them after by saying they didn’t know. Payback is my guess. You have to understand that in diplomacy you find out the truth much later.

Bush showed some pictures of mangled but pancaked bodies. They have them for OBL and will probably release.
A conspiracy of such scale is impossible to pull off. IMPOSSIBLE. Think of how many people are supposed to lie about this and what would happen if discovered...much worse than Watergate because it’s international too. His ratings would be at 0.2%, if that, and it’s not even a late October surprise. So don’t be sad, celebrate.

Now that birthers are out of a job, they want to become deathers.


70 posted on 05/02/2011 9:57:00 PM PDT by mewykwistmas (She does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her)
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To: over3Owithabrain
The admin themselves said they are 99.9 percent certain

I remember them saying that. I also read that the DNA test results were also 99.9 percent certain. Almost as if they were making their determination 100% on the DNA test results. Hmm...

71 posted on 05/02/2011 10:02:09 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mylife

Thank you.


72 posted on 05/02/2011 10:02:46 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: mewykwistmas

To this day there are still people who think it’s possible that Hitler is alive (despite what his age would be by now) and even more so as you go back in time.

There were doubts about Hitler’s death.


73 posted on 05/02/2011 10:04:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: UniqueViews

My opinion is that this quick burial is intended to create a new set of conspiracies.

Let’s assume for the moment that Obama had a valid bc all along. The only reason to play the games in court was to discredit people who wanted to see it. It would cause 10-20% of conservatives to be denounced by their own.

Now, conveniently, they debunk the birther movement and within 7 days we have something new to create conspiracies about.

It’s far too convenient. Fist birthers now they will call the Osama isn’t dead crowd deathers.

Maybe it’s too Machiavellian to be true, but it sure looks like they took a great political opportunity and planted a poison pill for some people to willingly swallow.

Can’t you just hear Obama getting a great soundbite, “there they go again”?


74 posted on 05/02/2011 10:07:24 PM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: All; UniqueViews
The "virtual 100%" is meaningless. In fact it's FALSE. News accounts tell us they had brain tissue from a sister who died from cancer in the U.S.

Even if they're full siblings, that's not been clear in news I've seen, they won't match more than 50%. A full brother's DNA is better, parent's DNA is better still.

The "virtual 100%" is a fictitious number if they only had a full-sibling sister to compare to.

I'm not saying we didn't get OBL but they should not be using fake numbers when talking about a DNA match. It undermines the case.

The Left would exploit such a wild and inaccurate claim from a Republican administration.

75 posted on 05/02/2011 10:09:55 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: laxcoach
Can’t you just hear Obama getting a great soundbite, “there they go again”?

Of course. Savage is already calling on listeners not to become "Deathers."

76 posted on 05/02/2011 10:14:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: tsowellfan

IMO, he foments doubt and paranoia on purpose, in an manner resembling psy-ops.

That is a very effective tactic in warfare.

It is disturbing beyond description that he is conducting psychological warfare on his alleged countrymen.

He seems to be determined to constantly keep us all off-balance and in a perpetual state of chaos.

This is not what I expect of a POTUS.


77 posted on 05/02/2011 10:17:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: UniqueViews; xzins; blue-duncan; wmfights

How do you get DNA results in less than 24 hours? Didn’t Obama say this thing went down yesterday? If they have DNA confirmation, then this thing must have gone down no later than last week.


78 posted on 05/02/2011 10:20:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: UniqueViews

Sounds fishy to me!


79 posted on 05/02/2011 10:21:22 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Nick Berg was one of the victims who Zarqawi hacked off his head on video. There was another, but that person’s name I forget.


80 posted on 05/02/2011 10:24:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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