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To: ml/nj
A lot of your questions can be answered by scanning an original that is in some book you own, buying some "safety paper," putting it in your printer and then printing out the page you scanned on it.

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Bound book: So you are saying that the copy of Obama's long form birth certificate that Obama showed us on April 27, 2011 came from a book and not from microfilm.

1. Obama ordered a new copy of his long form birth certificate: Can you also explain why Obama ordered a long form birth certificate in April 2007 in the first place?

2. Do you think that the President of the United States simply lost his? When did he lose it? People lose birth certificates all the time.

3. June 2007: The date stamped on short form Obama birth certificate found at FactCheck site, where the number is NOT blocked out.

4. June 2007: If Obama ordered a short form in June 2007, it means to me that if Obama lost his long form birth certificate, it would have been in 2007 or earlier, because most people don't go to the trouble of ordering a copy of their birth certificate, long or short form, unless they lose the one they had.

5. Long form vs. short form: And why would Obama order a short form in June 2007 if he already had a long form stored with his other valuable family documents?

6. OBAMA MOTHER'S SIGNATURE: What kind of pen did she use? Can anyone tell what type of pen she used? In another thread, someone asked if such a pen was invented yet.

7. "Stanley" in parenthesis: I'm sorry, but after looking at samples of Obama's mother's signature over the years on the internet, (1) I didn't see any signature where she put her first name "Stanley" in parenthesis, and (2) she started her signature mostly with "Stanley" or with a capital "S", not with her middle name "Ann."

8. My opinion is this: SOMEONE ELSE signed Obama's mother's name to the long form birth certificate. Putting "Stanley" ---Obama's mother's legal first name---in parenthesis and on top, to the left of the main part of the signature is a bizarre act that I don't think Obama's mother, or most of us, would do to our first name on such am important document like a birth certificate, even if, like many people, she went by her middle name "Ann" most of the time instead of her legal first name "Stanley."

9. Obama's mother's signature with "Stanley" in parenthesis: It looks like whoever signed Obama's mother's name forgot the "Stanley" part and tried to correct the error by making two mistakes that made the signature look even more bizarre: The person clumsily wrote "Stanley" above the main part of the signature, because it looks like the person did not leave any room to the left of "Ann" to squeeze in "Stanley". The person compounded the mistake by putting "Stanley" in parenthesis instead of writing "Stanley" WITHOUT any parenthesis at all. In additiion, when the person rushed to add "Stanley" as a side note to the signature and putting it in parenthesis, the person, in my opinion, wrote "Stanley" in a handwriting style that is not consistent to the way Obama's mother would have written "Stanley".

10. By putting "Stanley" in parenthesis, in my opinion, the person unknowingly showed disrespect to the "Stanley" name, but I don't believe that Obama's mother would have shown such disrespect to her own first name, even if, while growing up, she may not have liked it very much because "Stanley" is normally a boy's first name.

11. Again, I don't believe that Obama's mother signed her name to the long form birth certificate because of the way "Stanley" is put in parenthesis above and to the left of the main part of the signnature "Ann Dunham Obama".

12. I think that the person was concentrating so much on making sure that he got "Obama" in the signature that he forgot to put "Stanley" in the signature. So he made Obama's mother's signature look bizarre by adding Obama's mother's first name "Stanley" to the signature and, for some unknown weird reason, putting it in parenthesis, because there was no room at the front of the signature where he could squeeze in "Stanley." Bad mistake.

62 posted on 05/03/2011 2:40:26 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
I hardly think that the multiple pixel sizes must be the only evidence that Bamie BC II is a fraud. I just think that it is the simplest demonstration of it.

As for me scanning something, I'm not going to bother. You could ask me to go for a long walk and then come back ans look again because my EXPERIENCE tells me it is not going to change anything. The internet is full of all sorts of things. It is incumbent upon you and others to come up with pre-existing examples which demonstrate similar phenomena. I've looked. I cannot find a single one.

ML/NJ

63 posted on 05/03/2011 3:29:19 PM PDT by ml/nj
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