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Marines briefed matter-of-factly on 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 1, 2011 | By Tony Perry

Posted on 05/01/2011 4:44:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Camp Pendleton — The presentation was direct, even matter-of-fact, giving no hint of the large-scale cultural shift that the new policy represents — or of the passionate debate it provoked among politicians, religious leaders and other civilians.

There is a new policy, the young-looking colonel told 50-plus enlisted Marines sitting in the pews of an aging chapel on this sprawling base.

You will follow the policy, he said in a calm tone. If you have trouble with the policy, please see your sergeant or chaplain.

"The leadership will try to work with you and get you through it," he said.

And with that, this group of Marines from the headquarters battalion, 1st Marine Division, had been briefed last week on a new law that will allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in the U.S. military.

Using a 30-minute slide show approved by Marine brass, Col. Rudolph Janiczek, the battalion commander, walked his Marines through what would change and what would not.

"I'm not here to change your belief system; that's not what this is about," Janiczek said. "You're free to be who you are. But when you begin to infringe on the rights of other Marines, that's the limit."

Similar briefing sessions are occurring at military bases throughout the U.S. and at bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. Only after such sessions are completed will the new law go into effect — probably in late fall.

Recruits will no longer be asked about their sexual orientation. Being seen drinking in a gay bar off base or participating in a same-sex embrace will no longer be grounds for being booted out of the service.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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Col. Rudolph Janiczek

Col. Rudolph Janiczek, a battalion commander, briefs his Marines in a chapel at Camp Pendleton.


1 posted on 05/01/2011 4:44:33 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“....and listen up here, eye shadow and lipstick will now be called face paint”.


2 posted on 05/01/2011 4:55:32 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is next?
Once you allow one group of perverts to openly serve how do you stop the next ones?
Transgender Marines anyone??
Pedophile Platoons?
Can we find a leader somewhere?


3 posted on 05/01/2011 5:02:57 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“What is next?”

You will see “married” gay military.....attempting to force recognition of their “marriage” in whatever state they are based. That has been the plan....


4 posted on 05/01/2011 5:08:12 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Marine Commandant Gen. James Amos warned that it could be a dangerous "diversion." He proposed that any change be delayed until the military was no longer fighting two wars. His predecessor, Gen. James Conway, made a similar plea to Congress."

And, our congresscritters, bereft of bloodied leadership in their ranks, immediately went deaf. I'd rather the U.S.M.C. furl its colors, than live with this stain on their battle streamers.
5 posted on 05/01/2011 5:20:26 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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May is here, will the high school grads play along??? Will the class of 2007 who will be ending their 1st hitch say ‘’hasta la vista’’ suckers???


6 posted on 05/01/2011 5:31:32 AM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The evil irony is that the best warriors,those infused with adequate amounts of testosterone and both mentally and emotionally driven by male machismo,aggressive valor and patriotic honor,will be those less likely to put up with the hopeless homosexual behaviors of exhibitionism,promiscuity,and the desperate need to seduce or sexually assault heterosexual men.
They will be the ones who will be “disciplined” by the PC MPs or SPs the most and our armed forces will be depleted of ability and courage.
Some say other militaries have open homosexuals serving and are doing just fine.They will say that of ours as well because once PC takes over,God help the man who complains!
7 posted on 05/01/2011 5:35:36 AM PDT by Happy Rain (WOLF3ABM581)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can just see the KGB agents running Washington laugh ng amomg themselves. “Hey, Ivan, we really weakened those tough old Marines with this one!”


8 posted on 05/01/2011 6:00:10 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: SumProVita

All part of the plan - “married” with dependents.

Just wait until June when this president “celebrates” LGBT month & uses this to campaign with this part of his base.

After that, we can count on further destruction of military discipline when the Left moves to place women in direct combat roles.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 6:01:05 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Utter crap.Fag agenda has arrived.Could you imagine this back in our day?


10 posted on 05/01/2011 6:01:45 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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"I'm not here to change your belief system; that's not what this is about,"

That's a lie. This is all social engineering.

11 posted on 05/01/2011 6:05:54 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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From my days as an NCO and Platoon Sergeant:
"Gentlemen and Ladies...there will be NO GRAB-ASS while you are on duty.
What you do off duty had better never have me standing in front of Tops desk.
Is this understood?

While I did have a few 'early morning bail-outs'...this pretty much covered the bases.
12 posted on 05/01/2011 6:11:39 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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Being seen drinking in a gay bar off base or participating in a same-sex embrace will no longer be grounds for being booted out of the service.

Those actions shouldn't have been grounds for dismissal in the first place--I doubt they really were.

I think the L.A. Times is making this up to garner support for the other, more serious, offenses.

13 posted on 05/01/2011 6:13:08 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

IN THE CHAPEL?


14 posted on 05/01/2011 6:14:06 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Next the lawyers and "activists" will hit the media and the battlecry will be, "We/ They can die for their Country, but the canot marry the one they love".

Within a yera at te longest, the other groups of degenerates will begin saying, "It is not fair that we cannot serve, also" Pandoria's box hhas now been opened wide and once the egg is broken, it cannot be put back together.

I am thankful that my remaining years on this Earth are, at the longest, short and they will be shorter when the Socialists tighten their control to the extent of abolishing the Second Amendant.I will not have to fully witness the death of what once was the greatest Nation on the face of the Earth.

15 posted on 05/01/2011 6:28:29 AM PDT by sport
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To: Waco

The honorable ones will.


16 posted on 05/01/2011 6:30:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; wardaddy

The last bastions are falling. America accelerates its crash-dive.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 6:36:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Castigo Cay" will be out in a few weeks.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...and don’t EVER drop the soap!”


18 posted on 05/01/2011 6:36:13 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s about power, nothing else.


19 posted on 05/01/2011 6:39:02 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
filthy disease ridden queers strike again...
20 posted on 05/01/2011 6:42:08 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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