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To: Sacajaweau

McCain was also born on American soil - a US Naval hospital in Panama. He needed NO cover except from straw clutching liberals.


3 posted on 05/01/2011 4:33:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Sheesh, this has been discussed and dissected on FR. He was not born on US soil and there was no Naval hospital at that time. He is also not a NBC. That’s why he was appointed candidate so he’d shut up about Zero’s ineligibility. This is a huge criminal enterprise by both parties.


20 posted on 05/01/2011 10:10:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jmaroneps37

You wrote: “McCain was also born on American soil - a US Naval hospital in Panama. He needed NO cover except from straw clutching liberals.”

Wrong. John Sidney McCain III was born in a civilian hospital in Colon, Panama: Outside the jurisdiction of the US... I know, I know, but he was a war hero. Bottom line, he was ineligible... next time he should choose his parents more wisely. The Dems knew that and that’s why they “resolved” that he was a “Natural Born Citizen.” BS!

Google: “Obama Knew He Wasn’t Eligible For POTUS.” Two-thirds the way down the article Professor Gabriel J. Chin of the University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law wrote a Discussion Paper # 08-14: “Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President.”

A quote from the Discussion Paper: “Professor Chin points out clearly where Tribe-Olson (McCain’s Lawyers) sought to draw out implied theories in the law, which in reality, are simply not there and in fact have been decided by the courts already, in opposition to the suggestions offered by Tribe-Olson. Simply put, the attorneys hired by Sen. McCain attempt to fit the law into their agenda with contrived implications. Professor Chin brings the law back into focus, requiring no implied theories.”

I read additional information on this later and remember another quote with words to the effect: “John McCain was one thousand yards and three years short of being eligible for POTUS.” Evidently some territory was gained and put under US Jurisdiction a few years later?

Fire away.


40 posted on 05/01/2011 4:21:50 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: jmaroneps37
McCain was also born on American soil - a US Naval hospital in Panama.

Not so!

John Sidney McCain III was born at the Colon Hospital, located at Avenida Melendez and 2nd Street, Manzanillo Island, City of Colon, Republic of Panama. The time of birth on the birth certificate issued by Panama Railroad Company (that owned the Colon Hospital) was 5:25 PM and the day and date of birth was Saturday, August 29, 1936.

John McCain's father, John S. McCain Jr., was a US Naval officer serving in the Panama Canal Zone. His mother was Roberta Wright. Both were American citizens.

McCain gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act -- "by statute."

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

Sec. 303. [8 U.S.C. 1403] Persons born in the Canal Zone or the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

This case fails the test of jus soli -- NOT born in the USA
This case meets the test of jus sanguinis -- parents are US citizens
"At birth," this person was subject to the laws and jurisdiction of the United States and Panama, This person has "dual citizenship" via his birthplace. He is NOT a "natural born" citizen, and is NOT eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

46 posted on 05/03/2011 2:59:49 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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