Posted on 04/30/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by BerryDingle
TRIPOLI, Libya — Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi survived a NATO missile strike Saturday that killed his youngest son and three grandchildren and wounded friends and relatives, Libya's spokesman said.
Gadhafi and his wife were in the Tripoli house of son Saif al-Arab Gadhafi, 29, when it was hit by at least one missile fired by a NATO warplane, according to Libyan spokesman Moussa Ibrahim.
Libyan officials took journalists to the one-story house in a wealthy residential neighborhood. Some areas of the roof were caved in, leaving strings of reinforcing steel hanging down among chunks of concrete.
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/johnny
Reagan lobbed a cruise through his front door - killing one of his daughters.
Bush played hard ball and got him to give up his WMD's and help with capturing and turning in Al Queda - who Qaddafi considers his deadly enemies too. Qaddafi was quiet and compliant compared to most of the ME countries over there. This is NOT the country we should be going into war with with all the real fires in the region.
and if you think this has ANYthing to do with Lockerbie, you are either naive or think we are.
obama is conducting an illegal war with no mandate from the U.S. And he quickly went way beyond the 'no fly' mandate he got from the UN. they have NO RIGHT to be destroying that country and NO MANDATE to target Qaddafi for assassination...and certainly no right to be killing children.
We have made a deadly enemy out of someone who was keeping his country stable in the middle of a powder keg.
And who are we propping up? They even admit they don't know (well, they do, but...we'll all just keep ignoring all the reports about the al Queada there.)
obama says he had to go in because Qaddafi was 'going to' slaughter his people. And who were the 'people' he was fighting that gave obama this cover story?
they were al Queda criminals that, upon release from prison terms, attacked a police station, killed policemen and confiscated weapons which they used to continue attacts. Qaddafi went after them.
so why are we there? Beside the goal to turn yet another friendly ME country over to the Muslim Brotherhood and al Queada?
Think on this: Qaddafi has billions in gold - physical gold. Unlike Mobarak and others, he doesn't have his gold in Swiss banks or anywhere else but in Libya.
As far as Italy and France? They want to be sure that liquid gold that flows under the sea from Libya to Italy doesn't dry up.
You think obama doesn't plan to put our troops on the ground there - and to hell with what we think?
Remember when Gates said, recently in congress when asked if we'd put boots on the ground? He said: "Not on MY watch!"
I said: "He just signed his 'resignation letter."
And indeed - now he's being replaced by Panetta - who's hitched at the hip with Obama.
So I surmise you are either totally uninformed of the realities (and we don't have half the picture) - or are deliberately trying to obfuscate what is going on, thinkig we are as clueless as obama thinks we are, not that he doesn't have reason to so think - after all, he was elected.
Better be watching the other hand - while he's got us busy clucking over th so-called release of his long form - and knowing the world and the news would be dominated for a few days with THE WEDDING, he puts in a lap dog that well may put boots on the ground. You really think we need to be in another war? (We've already lost a good friend of the family over there - there should not be ONE of our soldiers lives put in harms way for this phony war.) NOT ONE. Are you watching?
Anybody?
Lockerbie - meh. Like obama gives a rats behind about that - that was only white folk.
Good luck telling God you weren’t responsible for your own evil acts “cuz you were just takin’ orders”.
Lockerbie was slap back for the nightclub bombing slap back. It's hard to keep track without a program in front of you.
Our so-called leaders are MORAL COWARDS. They don't lance the boil of Iran, but flail about elsewhere.
My concern is for my brothers in arms. I've been there, done that, still have t-shirts.
My policy is that civilians control the military. And that when the military is invoked, they should be allowed to slip the leash.
You should see me on abortion threads, I'm obnoxious. All life is precious to me. Especially children. Which is why war should be entered into very carefully. Because children will be killed. Or left homeless, or parentless.
Our leaders suck. It's our fault. Kids got killed.
/johnny
What Qaddafi has done in the past has NOT ONE THING to do with why obama is plunging us into this.
Nor has it one thing do with the phony protestations of bama in preventing 'slaughter.'
Wherever else we might have done to Qaddafi should have been done long ago - not when the whole ME is on fire, ready to explode at any moment.
going after the 2 more stable and quiet of the ME countries - Egypt and Libya - is insanity.
But not from the perspective of those who want to turn those two heretofore stable countries over to the control of militant Muslims.
He DOES intend to send our soldiers in there. How many of our troops are you willing to sacrifice on obama's illegal, unnecessary and convoluted war?
But war is serious business. People, including children, die. And worse. And there is worse than dying.
Our leaders suck. That is our fault. We really need to fix that problem.
/johnny
That's an easy question. None.
It is unjust and counter to our interests.
Our leadership sucks. It's our fault. We need to fix that problem.
/johnny
Killing kids is OK if Obama approves it. Just ask the MSM.
Yea on this one I am too. Also Afghanistan and Iraq, it’s time to bring our troops home. We’ve spilled enough blood, no more.
Well then, we damn well better get on it fast.
Just WHY do you think obama has just replaced Gates with Panetta?
You remember, Gates - who testified in congress when asked if we would put boots on the ground, said "Not on MY watch!."
I said: "He just signed his 'resignation letter."
And now he's out - replaced by obama's hitched at the hip pal, Panetta.
You don't want mission creep? You don't want boots on the ground?
Better get vocal fast.
And y'all better be watching the other hand.
Do I sound angry?
Damn straight. I've already lost a good family friend over there. And if he puts boots on the ground, my grandson, who grew up in my home and who has done two brutal long tours in the 'ghan, is poised to be among the first boots.
Did I say 'angry." Make the FURIOUS.
“Maybe it did happen.
Maybe it didn’t.”
I’m betting didn’t!
“Maybe it did happen.
Maybe it didn’t.”
I’m betting didn’t!
I always know I’m dealing with a skilled debater when he retorts with the moronic and childish “newbie” insult.
You are right. This whole thing is a “CF” gone wrong. It is unamerican and morally reprehensible. There is no excuse, no reason for the United States of America to be killing innocents. If they want to kill Khadaffi then kill effing Khadaffi. You do not have to target and blow up his whole family.
Nothing good will come from this. We have been led into this unfortunate escapade by an ignorant, incompetent fool who has ceded the sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations. This is how we have found ourselves in a no win situation with no real plan of action and no exit strategy. Look for this to go from bad to worse and end really badly. Barack Obama has brought this country to the brink of moral bankruptcy with his misguided Marxist beliefs. I feel physically sick as I watch him destroy everything that is good and right and honorable about the United States of America.
The Congress of the United States should be drawing up Articles of Impeachment on Barack Obama. He took the direction of the United Nations and went to war agains’t another country without the approval of Congress. He has arrogantly declared that he will not need the advice and consent of Congress to continue with his misadventures in Libya. He is unfit for command and needs to be removed from office. Two more years of this and we will not exist any longer.
It reminds me of all those *weddings* the US was accused of bombing.
Gadhafi survived a NATO missile strike Saturday that killed his youngest son and three grandchildren and wounded friends and relativesWell, we can all sleep sound in the knowledge that NATO isn't trying to assassinate Gadhafi -- it's satisfied with the murder of his children and grandchildren.
You just showed up in the middle of the end of the conversation.
As far a skilled rhetoric goes, you have not refuted that:
a) Our leadership sucks.
b) It's our(American's) fault.
c)That we need to change it.
/johnny
Another Obama war crime.
The incompetent Obama has led us into a rogue war.....and it will turn out badly for us because he and his amoral thug advisors have no idea what the hell they're doing.
Some Islam terrorists from anywhere will now target Obama and his children.....plus the families of other Western leaders.
This is why heads of state are normally not targets of deliberate assassination....nor are innocent child relatives of same. There will be horrible repercussions, mark my words....especially from any or all Arab cultures who put an abnormal value on male children.
Leni
I would think that somebody’s grandchildren died in Lockerbie.
I understand what you’re saying here, and I could care less about Gadhafi or his family, but NATO isn’t bombing Libya to retaliate for Lockerbie.
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