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Purported birth certificate signed by "U K L Lee" – proving forgery -- may play Obama's swan song
Israel Insider ^ | 04/28/2011 | Israel Insider

Posted on 04/28/2011 10:02:01 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Most likely, one suspects, the one who signed as "U K L Lee" was the forger himself, taking credit for the deed with an in-joke that presumably would escape the attention of the masses and the mainstream media cowed into submission by an imperious Presidential statement that he had "more important things" to worry about.

It is also possible that the forger was not comfortable with the criminal task imposed on him or her, and therefore left tell-traces, together with the artifacts of photoshopping and document assembly, as clues.

Israel Insider is familiar with all this because we encountered it before, in our detailed analysis of the original publication of the short-form "Certification of Live Birth" originally published on the White House's behalf in the Daily Kos. There a skilled document-manipulator named Jay McKinnon produced knockoffs of that document with the whimsical signature "I B A Forgerie" in examples showing how it's done.

SNIP

"U K L Lee" is a slightly more subtle signature than Haye I.B Ahphorgerie, but the idea is identical. Forgers, like all artists, invariably find ways, directly or indirectly, of claiming credit for their creations. Whoever added the ukulele signature either was arrogant enough to believe that his in-joke would be overlooked, or arrogant enough not to care. Or even, consciously or unconsciously, he wanted to be discovered.

One would hope that, if this confession was done without direction from the president, the forger knows how to conceal him or herself better than the evidence of his or her forgery!

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; officialbcrelease
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To: 353FMG

I admit it.

I luv chicks.


121 posted on 04/29/2011 9:03:22 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: GregNH

Just when I was about to accept your apology, you go and do it again.

Surely you can at least tell the difference between a personal attack and a comment on a theory. Sorry, but its a crazy theory, as are many of the theories supposedly debunking the COLB-II as a fake.


122 posted on 04/29/2011 9:03:52 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze

You comment leaves us to believe you are calling Ladsforest crazy. Now if I can interpret it that way so can many others. You could have typed “That’s crazy”


123 posted on 04/29/2011 9:07:26 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: GregNH

Thank you GregNH.

Apparently making a valid observation equates to a tinfoil hat extremist, right wing radical gun tottin’, racist conspiracy theory, to some people..........

Didn’t know I had it in me.


124 posted on 04/29/2011 9:39:34 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Smokeyblue; patlin
Proving also that we can all agree to disagree.

Cliche though it is. So much at stake here that persons are rightfully easily angered.

Hopefully the REAL target should be born in mind. The forces behind the present incumbent in the White House. This and their trickery and back room machinations. Still a very open question this birth certificate, but to sort the "wheat from the chaff" is to guard against the mockers and jeer merchants from the Left.

125 posted on 04/29/2011 9:43:48 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Smokeyblue

126 posted on 04/29/2011 9:56:35 AM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: Ladysforest
Actually Pumpkin, it is unusual that they’re a year apart and the signature is almost identical. That is what makes it stand out. Look at one of your signatures from a year ago - then find something you signed recently. Are they nearly identical?

What, exactly, are you implying, if not that it was copied? BTW, yes, I can find old signatures of mine that look very similar, actually all will look very similar, and probably quite a few that are nearly identical.

127 posted on 04/29/2011 10:02:30 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: GregNH
You comment leaves us to believe you are calling Ladsforest crazy. Now if I can interpret it that way so can many others. You could have typed “That’s crazy”

And yet, you managed to come up with the exact implication of the smiley.

128 posted on 04/29/2011 10:04:18 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze

Very similar, yes, that is the usual thing. Nearly identical is far less common. It is more interesting to me because it is the second such coincidence on that form of obama’s.

Make of it what you will, dismiss it or whatever, but it is still interesting.


129 posted on 04/29/2011 10:24:17 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Lee'sGhost

The hospital listed was Kapiolani, which some say was not known as that in 1961. That may be, but the Nordyke twins born at the same time as Zero, also have Kapiolani on their BC, so it must have been the name of record at the time. The twins BC images are easy to find if you want to look.


130 posted on 04/29/2011 12:39:30 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

thanks!


131 posted on 04/29/2011 1:35:10 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: patlin
I pointed this out on the loooooong thread last night, but the rumor, but alas, the rumor still lives on.

I'm afraid you'll be hearing it for a long time, just like we still hear birthers claiming Maya has a COLB, or that Obama could not have used a US passport when he travelled to Pakistan, or that a father couldn't choose to classify his race as "African" on a BC in 1961.

132 posted on 04/29/2011 2:29:36 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Tatze
FYI, Dr. Conspiracy has found some evidence that the numbers were assigned in alphabetical order of the last names on the certificates:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/obamas-birth-certificate-number/

So the Nordykes have earlier numbers because "N" comes before "O".

133 posted on 04/29/2011 2:35:26 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: doorgunner69
So, do we have a Northern Chinese Lee or a Southern Chinese Lee? Well, if that supposed first name is really the initials for 3 names it's pretty standard for South China.

What we need to do is find a person who spoke Fukian, most likely, who was named Mr. or Miss. or Mrs. Lee in Hawaii in 1961/62.

Yup!

134 posted on 04/29/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Revolting cat!

135 posted on 04/29/2011 3:40:08 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Ladysforest
Think of "U K L" as running cursive Chinese script for a moment. Then it looks more like the name "Fish Mountain Man" Lee. This could simply refer to Hawaii ~ in some sense as "Fish Mountain" ~ where's our Chinese cursive guys on this one. There is no "K" in "UKL" that's some sort of line tilted to the left, and then the two angle bars on the supposed "K" ae part of the "L".

I suppose the guy early on in his life that this looked like U K L LEE

136 posted on 04/29/2011 4:17:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: curiosity
You've stated here and elsewhere that

Parents are allowed to put whatever they want in the "race" box.

Source. please.

137 posted on 04/29/2011 4:31:02 PM PDT by Chunga (I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: Chunga
1961 is your source. This form reflects information provided by the parents.

There were other standards for official United States government reports, but this is not an official United States government report ~ it's just a record of a birth of a tiny baby.

I always put NASCAR and INDY500 in boxes like that and NO ONE has come to punish me for it. No one goes to jail for Black instead of Negro instead of Colored instead of NGR instead of NIG instead of ........ African

Common sense and astute observation of what is going on around you can go a long way toward illuminating why others do what they do.

138 posted on 04/29/2011 4:38:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Common sense and astute observation of what is going on around you can go a long way toward illuminating why others do what they do.

Thanks for the mind-numbing platitude.

I want curiosity to provide a source for his assertion. He disregards all assertions until proof is provided. It's his turn. Butt out. Thanks!

139 posted on 04/29/2011 5:32:01 PM PDT by Chunga (I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: Chunga
Your question is particularly annoying ~ so no, I'm not butting out.

You were advised earlier that under American law all that is not prohibited is allowed ~ which rarely has to be stated here ~ everybody knows that.

This guy doesn't need a source ~ but if you have a source that says private citizens must report information to the government using such and so words, it's still your turn to do so.

There's no statement on that form that says UNDER PAIN OF PENALTY FOR PERJURY ~ or other similar threatening language.

140 posted on 04/29/2011 5:41:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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