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Purported birth certificate signed by "U K L Lee" – proving forgery -- may play Obama's swan song
Israel Insider ^ | 04/28/2011 | Israel Insider

Posted on 04/28/2011 10:02:01 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Most likely, one suspects, the one who signed as "U K L Lee" was the forger himself, taking credit for the deed with an in-joke that presumably would escape the attention of the masses and the mainstream media cowed into submission by an imperious Presidential statement that he had "more important things" to worry about.

It is also possible that the forger was not comfortable with the criminal task imposed on him or her, and therefore left tell-traces, together with the artifacts of photoshopping and document assembly, as clues.

Israel Insider is familiar with all this because we encountered it before, in our detailed analysis of the original publication of the short-form "Certification of Live Birth" originally published on the White House's behalf in the Daily Kos. There a skilled document-manipulator named Jay McKinnon produced knockoffs of that document with the whimsical signature "I B A Forgerie" in examples showing how it's done.

SNIP

"U K L Lee" is a slightly more subtle signature than Haye I.B Ahphorgerie, but the idea is identical. Forgers, like all artists, invariably find ways, directly or indirectly, of claiming credit for their creations. Whoever added the ukulele signature either was arrogant enough to believe that his in-joke would be overlooked, or arrogant enough not to care. Or even, consciously or unconsciously, he wanted to be discovered.

One would hope that, if this confession was done without direction from the president, the forger knows how to conceal him or herself better than the evidence of his or her forgery!

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; officialbcrelease
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To: Smokeyblue

Impeachement proceedings would bring to light a lot of information, no? Fat chance getting that to happen with these spineless go along to get along accomplices.


101 posted on 04/29/2011 4:40:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Smokeyblue
PSPOOL
102 posted on 04/29/2011 5:22:28 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: kaila

Interesting. Would you please post a scan of it? Redacted of course.


103 posted on 04/29/2011 5:25:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: patlin

KEWL! To bad that person in that one wasn’t “black” so we could get to the bottom of the “African” thing.


104 posted on 04/29/2011 5:28:04 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: kaila
My husband was born at Tripler in 1953, and his LF COLB is very similar to the Nordyke ones with white writing on a black background.

I did find something else in his important papers file - an actual microfiche "Birth Certificate." It's about 4" x 5" and just states where he was born, to whom, and the date and time of birth. It then states: "In Witness Whereof the said Hospital has caused this certificate to be signed by its duly authorized officer and its Official Seal to be hereunto affixed." It is then signed by the attending physician and the base commander.

So I guess they did give out something called a "birth certificate," at least at *that* time. Did you get one of those, Kaila?

Mrs. Prince of Space

105 posted on 04/29/2011 5:28:51 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Proud member of the only church started by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago...)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Yes, that's it. The whole Obama BC fraud is a inside joke by the most inside of Hawaiians, without a doubt.

Nice way to express that. The native Hawaiian singer IZ with his ukulele in hand! IZ (Israel Kaʻanoʻi Kamakawiwoʻole) was an advocate of Hawaiian independence, the restoration of Hawaiian royalty.

His music lives on forever. It is a music -- his voice singing simple tunes -- clearly full of soul and love. Of joy and sadness intertwined. Life!

Yet, IZ himself died of morbid obesity. He was huge. Six foot two and over 750 pounds at his biggest. He died young, at 38. Obasity is a problem among native Hawaiians, especially in the welfare state era.

106 posted on 04/29/2011 5:36:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: doorgunner69

I’m not familiar with the bogus center or twins issues. Can you clarify please?


107 posted on 04/29/2011 5:39:28 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: patlin

thanks for the article, it’s really informative!!!

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/final-report-obamas-birth-announcements.html


108 posted on 04/29/2011 5:47:06 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: shadowland

He signed his first name in all caps but his last in the conventional first letter only capped?


109 posted on 04/29/2011 6:24:26 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Prince of Space

No, mine looks like Obama’s.
I got this current copy of my certificate in 1999.


110 posted on 04/29/2011 7:17:58 AM PDT by kaila
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To: old curmudgeon

The fact that lower-case ‘e’ has a significantly different appearance from it’s upper case counterpart just gives that illusion. The other vowel ‘i’ is just done lazily.


111 posted on 04/29/2011 7:25:06 AM PDT by shadowland
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To: Plutarch

It’s funny to see somebody spending a lot of time and effort to post their suspicions and speak with such worldly knowledge and... ahem, “authority” on the subject only to get debunked and slammed in just 6 posts... FR is great!


112 posted on 04/29/2011 7:35:11 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: patlin
Well, the Nordykes are the originals they got when the girls started kindergarten, so the purported one issued today would not look similar to theirs. It’s the filed/accepted dates & the number sequence discrepency that outright shows that Obama’s is a fake made out of thin air for the fraud-in-thief.

The Nordyke "originals" are exactly the same thing that Obama put out on Wednesday, that is, a copy of the original Certificate on record. The only difference, other than the content of the forms, is the signatures of the officials who authenticated the copy. In 1966, two people signed it, the Director of Health and the Registrar General. In 2011, the State Registrar signed it.

As for the document #'s, in addition to the numerous plausible explanations for the order discrepancy, Mrs Nordyke herself had her own theory. "Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham's baby was born earlier. Nordyke's twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day." Certainly plausible. As is the possibility that all the forms for the week were instead stamped with a number and filed (not the same as accepted) on the same day, and a simple clerical error ordered the forms incorrectly. There is nothing "outright" proven by the document numbers.

http://www.biasedmediaboycott.com/index.php?topic=80.0

113 posted on 04/29/2011 7:55:58 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Hatteras

114 posted on 04/29/2011 7:56:43 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest
Oh, so they lifted the signature from the '62 form and pasted it into Obama's. Got it.


115 posted on 04/29/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze
In 1961, the birth cert numbers were mechanically stamped onto the document. The numbers on those stamping machines automatically advanced each time they were used, therefore a date of accepted & signed on Aug 8 would have to have a much lower cert number than the ones dated & signed Aug 11. That is unless one is so naive to believe that there were only 2 births filed & numbered in between those dates and that somehow the “WON'S” cert got date stamped & signed by the local registrar on Aug 8, but then the registrar set it aside for a few days and didn't issue it a number until after the Nordykes certs were finalized by the registrar. I've filled out a lot of official forms & one doesn't sign off on something until all the above required information is confirmed as being a true & correct compilation of the facts of which the document pertains to.

The only other plausible conclusions is that the “WON’s” cert was filed at a satellite office, but it didn't receive it's number until it reached the main office in Honolulu some days later. Therefore, since the Nordykes show the name of a different local registrar, Lee must have worked at the satellite office certain days of the week and worked in the main office the rest, where there were several local registrars on hand handling these documents and once the docs were finalized & signed by the registrars, they then would walk over to the machine & give them their automatically determined official mechanically machined certificate number...seen it done many a times. There is only 1 official State Registrar, but many local ones to handle the work load as the State Registrar's signature only applies when one requests a true & correct copy of the original.

Or maybe the moon is really made of green cheese...take your pick.

116 posted on 04/29/2011 8:37:19 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Tatze

So whats with the personal attack now? Hypocrite!


117 posted on 04/29/2011 8:42:35 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: Vendome

Naughty, naughty! You’d rather look at skin than Obama’s fraudulent BC. No wonder this country is in such deep sh-t.


118 posted on 04/29/2011 8:52:19 AM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: patlin

By all means, please show me the official procedures used by the registrars office in 1961 that says exactly when the document number is stamped on the form. Right now, all I am doing is speculating on how the numbers could be in the incorrect order. I did find some official documents that indicates that the forms are first accepted, and then they are filed. So “accepted” is not the same as “filed”. So the fact that Obama’s form was accepted before the Nordyke’s is irrelevant. It depends on when it was filed. Or perhaps, as Mrs. Nordyke surmised, it depends on when the mother as admitted to the hospital. Neither you nor I know the actual procedures used.

The registrar signatures has been debunked as well. The Nordykes form was signed by the Deputy Registrar. Go look at their form and you can see where “DEPUTY” is stamped to the left of the signature. The Deputy would be a different person.


119 posted on 04/29/2011 8:57:24 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze

Actually Pumpkin, it is unusual that they’re a year apart and the signature is almost identical. That is what makes it stand out. Look at one of your signatures from a year ago - then find something you signed recently. Are they nearly identical?


120 posted on 04/29/2011 8:57:46 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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