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1 posted on 04/28/2011 7:52:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Nope. :)


2 posted on 04/28/2011 7:53:50 PM PDT by allmost
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To: smokingfrog

If the bamster was a REAL person he would have exhibited his REAL birth certificate when this issue first surfaced.

There is NOTHING real about this critter or the faked and forged “document” that was “released” two days ago.

If he’s an American then I’m the King of England.


3 posted on 04/28/2011 8:00:07 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: smokingfrog
Others insist that the certificate is forged. They claim that by using photo-editing software to examine the PDF file the White House released, it becomes clear that the document consists of several separate layers, indicating that it has somehow been manipulated.

"Others insist . . . they claim . . . somehow . . . manipulated."

Well, stupid, if you doubt it, how about trying it yourself. Download the .pdf file from the White House website and have a look at it with photo-editing software.

Now, then. Are they lying about it?

This claims to be a picture of a paper birth certificate. But there are, indeed, layers. Furthermore, parts of it are made with color copying, and parts with black and white copying, so there's no way in hell it wasn't manipulated.

Don't believe it? Try it yourself, you stupid reporter.

4 posted on 04/28/2011 8:02:17 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: smokingfrog
Even with birth certificate, 'birther' theories will not die

There is a simple, inescapable, unassailable, incontrovertible reason: he can't be trusted.

If he told me it was noon o'clock, I would look outside to be sure it was daylight.

6 posted on 04/28/2011 8:06:20 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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To: smokingfrog

Can somebody answer a very simple question? Is it standard practice when digitizing public records to attempt to extract the relevant text parts on a form and then place them against a modern green background? Can any technology perform that reliably, especially when working with microfiche? Has ANYBODY else ever received their BC where the state digitized the original document, extracted the printed elements on the form as well as the hand written elements on the paper and then electronically layered them onto a green backdrop?

I’ve yet to see an answer to these questions.

Frankly, I’ve never heard of any state doing that, I don’t know of any technology that can do that reliably, and I’ve never received a document like that.

Has anybody asked Hawaii if this is standard practice for them? Did they do it? Or did somebody on the Obama / WH staff do it? Has anybody asked HI about their current protocols for releasing public documents like this?

Why didn’t he release a simple photostat or just a photo of somebody holding the original paper copy?


7 posted on 04/28/2011 8:08:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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8 posted on 04/28/2011 8:08:37 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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...intended to offer more proof that he is a natural-born United States citizen...
8. Full Name of Father - Barack Hussein Obama
11. Birthplace - Kenya, East Africa


14 posted on 04/28/2011 8:41:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: smokingfrog

The document is unquestionably an “assembled” document created on a computer, not a photocopy or scan of an actual paper document as some might conclude by looking at it. However we learned nothing to prove that the information in the document is correct or accurate, only that it was what was assembled into the pdf file.


17 posted on 04/28/2011 8:47:45 PM PDT by bigbob
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First off, the document is labeled "Certificate of Live Birth," which is the same as the label on the shorter-form document that Obama released during the presidential campaign, when these issues first surfaced.

From right out of the gate this guy either lies or shows complete shoddy journalism. The short form has a "Certification Of Live Birth" header whereas the document just released has a "Certificate Of Live Birth" header. I mean seriously. These guys really treat the general public as idiots.

18 posted on 04/28/2011 8:58:09 PM PDT by torchthemummy (The Audacity Of Truth Trumps All)
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19 posted on 04/28/2011 8:58:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: smokingfrog

This issue will not die and will hang like an albatross around his neck all the way to the next election.One and done.


23 posted on 04/28/2011 9:45:21 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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It is true that a good conspiracy mutates rather than dies. Mutation of pattern recognition technique is a necessary thing for the living.

I am not aware if any one has mentioned this here yet, as this topic bores... But those who adhere to this issue shall soon be called the “after birthers”.

How yucky is that. Worse than a “teabagger”.

It will stick too.

24 posted on 04/28/2011 10:47:14 PM PDT by mmercier
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I've been an enthusiastic birther.

I'm all in favor of vetting the WH Birth Certificate here on FR.

But, it really should be something that goes on in Bloggers and Personal, and doesn't get out of there until there is really something solid.

I've not seen anything real solid yet, and I'm inclined to believe that there it is a photocopy of a BC in a book in the HI Dept. of Health.

26 posted on 04/28/2011 11:02:59 PM PDT by Plutarch
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However, the document proves that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen as his father was not a US citizen so that he was born in Hawaii is irrelevant.
27 posted on 04/28/2011 11:03:44 PM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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"Good conspiracy theories don't die — they simply adapt."

Adapt this:As to WHY BHO released a fake BC, it was the best he could do. His problem is that all his LEGAL documents refer to him by his adopted name and his citizenship as Indonesian. My guess is that he neglected to legally regain his US citizenship. And THAT is a whole 'nuther problem that he will do anything to conceal.

28 posted on 04/29/2011 4:41:09 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: smokingfrog

This anchor baby is not eligible to be POTUS. Father was not a citizen. It takes two citizen parents to be eligible to serve as POTUS.


31 posted on 04/29/2011 5:48:01 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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