[OLD REGGIE]

"BTW you are no more certain of the original Greek than I am."

I am going to assume that that is a rhetorical comment and not an attempt at mind reading.

I admit that my Latin is far better than my understanding of Greek, which is why I asked for your opinion on what the deeper exegestic meaning was. BTW, I am still interested in your opinion.

My comment was a statement of fact and not intended, in any way, to be considered rhetorical.

The "original" Greek is not known to exist. In any event the oldest manuscripts in existence are no less than 300-400 years after the fact copies.

I am not conversant in either Latin nor Greek and am not qualified to comment on any but plain English text. However, I find Jesus to be subordinate to His Father throughout Scripture.

[Natural Law]

"I find Jesus to be subordinate to His Father throughout Scripture."

That is a position that puts you outside of the beliefs of Christianity and reduces Christ to something other than God. This is such a fundamental dogmatic difference that little I doubt that any common ground can be established for further discussions.

[Cronos]

Old REggie: However, I find Jesus to be subordinate to His Father throughout Scripture.

Thank you for elaborating your beliefs. Question -- when you say "subordinate" -- can you clarify what you believe this to mean? That Jesus Christ is a subordinate god or supernatural being? Or something else?

[MarkBsnr]

I am not conversant in either Latin nor Greek and am not qualified to comment on any but plain English text. However, I find Jesus to be subordinate to His Father throughout Scripture.

You are correct.