Obama Birth Certificate Forgery – Don’t believe it yet. Verify 1st

[SonsOfLibertyII]

No reason to rush and make knee jerk reactions lets have a couple document experts examine the original first just to confirm and verify. By failing to release it when it initially became an issue, anything now produced merits much more intense scrutiny. Obama’s people have had over 3 years to FORGE 336 characters/certificate marks. Even for a D student you can do a bang up job if you have available a free 3 days per letter to work on forging a document.

[EvasiveManuever]

Obama’s father was as shown..a BRITISH subject. Not possible for Obama to be “Natural Born” American.

BINGO! BTW was his mother just made one year older on that BC?

THAT WAS MY GUESS TOO. It avoids the unpleasant truth that Obama was born via statutory rape.

Unless the post dating of Stanley was to avoid the Natural Born residency requirements. Better nail down her birth date before it scrubbed from the web.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Jerome Corsi’s book comes out in a month. Why didn’t Obama wait until right before its’ release to put this out, thus making Corsi look like a fool? The answer is simple. It’s the old Krintong (Clinton) tactic of throwing an answer—any answer—out there and then claiming “I’ve already addressed that”.
This is not over.

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Oprah. Oprah. Oprah.

Now the Obama’s can go on Oprah this week and they can gain empathy from the audience because he is being unfairly scrutinized and victimized by these racists questioning his legitimacy.

Wah, wah, wah...

[Hotlanta Mike]

Take a look at it Long Form
Notice the shaded area on the left side of the certificate? The Stamp date April 25, 2011 shows that the State registrar testifies that it is a true copy of the original on record

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Obama’s has Onaka’s signature stamp indicating that it may also be an ABSTRACT.

[EvasiveManuever]

Also everyone.... NOW days there are Medical Boards that contain the names of doctors, you can look them up and find licensing info. Now... I ASSUME that the Kenyan's handlers have already done so, and used a dead doctor on the cert. (In fact, I'd lay money on it - any takers?)

But in any case they cannot make records of who is allowed to practice medicine SECRET. They are public records. Even if it has to be done on the ground, we can GET that doctor's name. And from there, everything about him.

[Tex-Con-Man]

So you’re OK with hoax hucksters like Farah and Trump claiming to represent conservatives?

Count me out!

[Hotlanta Mike]

Fast response on your part Frank...you may also want to highlight these differences as well:

Obama’s COLB is missing this text at the bottom along with signatures:

“THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE RESEARCH, PLANNING AND STATISTICS OFFICE

HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH”

Instead Obama’s has Onaka’s signature stamp indicating that it may also be an ABSTRACT.

[July4]

The doctor’s name on this latest document looks like it may be SINCLAIR.

The number on the Certification of Live Birth has been obscured. That number may be the fly in the ointment, since it would be very risky to fake that. The number must be a reasonable match for the date and, since the numbers are sequential, you can’t just make one up. If you do, someone living now may very well come forward with the same number. What is the official explanation for hiding the certification number?

[Cheburashka]

First problem's: It says “Certificate of Live Birth” at the top.

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The document I have for my own personal birth says at the top: “Certificate of Birth.” It gives place of birth, hospital, my legal name, sex, date of birth, my parents names, races, and occupations, signature of attending doctor, his address, my mother's signature as informant, and the registrar's signature.

I sent it to the State Department with my application, the State Department sent it back with my new passport. Apparently they thought it was a birth certificate, since that is what they required, under whatever name.

By the way, I have the only copy, since the original on file in Cook County was destroyed in the Great Chicago Flood of 1992. Unless the hospital still has a copy.

You say there's some other document? Fine, you (or someone else) obtain and post a sample of this Hawaiian document of which you speak, so we can see the differences with what's been posted today. Until you prove otherwise, this is a birth certificate.

[Tex-Con-Man]

Jerome Corsi's book comes out in a month. Why didn't Obama wait until right before its' release to put this out, thus making Corsi look like a fool?

This is smart on Obama's part.

Corsi's book is titled, "Where's The Birth Certificate?". By all reports, there is much more in Corsi's book, and there may be real information in there that is damaging to Obama. It will be easier for Obama to dismiss any claims Corsi makes now that he has undermined the main theme of the book.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “ It will be easier for Obama to dismiss any claims Corsi makes now that he has undermined the main theme of the book. “ <<

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Only to a complete fool.

He has really just strengthened the outrage with this foolish ploy. He has actually given Corsi’s book far more credence than it might have had.

[Cheburashka]

Someone want to take a stab at splaining that one???

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You're a vet, right? You've dealt with bureaucracies, right?

Now explain to me why bureaucrats have to issue the forms in exact numerical sequence. Have to, have to, have to. Why exactly? What difference would it make if they didn't issue birth certificates in exact numerical sequence?

And of course they never screw up.

[WXRGina]

I think the term African refers to his supposed daddy’s race.

"African" is not a race. "Negro" is the correct term.

[Michael.SF.]

It says his father is African, not zero junior.

I understood that, my reference was to the terminology of the times. His father was not "African" as in African American. It would be more likely that they would have termed his father as either "Kenyan" or "Negro".

[Mozilla]

I say take time with it but start upping the anti on other issues. We have an incompetent GOP. Only a few are hitting Obama hard on the other issues you want to hear. The GOP could be doing that anyways. Even while the Obama birth/ history/certificate/ document issues remained in the public spotlight.

[George from New England]

Release it now - why? I bet one would find that someone, a witness from 1961, just died recently. Maybe the doctor or nurse or clerk — just sayin!

[Kaslin]

The reason why it doesn’t have a embossed seal is that the original with the seal is in a vault

[Hotlanta Mike]

Per Drudge...

Dr. David A. Sinclair, 81, of Honolulu, a retired physician, died Aug. 20, 2003, at home. He was born in Portland, Ore. He is survived by wife Ivalee; sons David, Karl and Brian; daughters Margaret Peterson, Rebekah Luke and Ruth and Katherine Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. Services: 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel. Call after 4:30 p.m. Aloha attire. No flowers. Donations suggested to Alzheimer’s Association of Hawaii.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2003/08/24/news/obits.html

[FrankR]

All the other birth certificates from Honolulu from that time are issued to the people as a black and white photocopy, this new obama one is on "safety paper". There is no evidence on the photocopies that they even used "safety paper" in 1961. The entire bottom of the certificates are different with the authenic one noting that the authenticity of the document is certified by the SEAL.stating:

THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE RESEARCH, PLANNING, AND STATISTICS OFFICE, HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

There are also no signatures of the a Physician or the Registrar General like on the bottom of the authentic one.

The Department of Health does not issue the ORIGINAL.

The reason there is no seal on the just released document is that it is as phoney as the first one was.

Add one more count of fraud to the kenyans dossier.

[Theodore R.]

If the doctor is living, there is a good chance that he has no recollection of having delivered Obama. Judge Bork had no recollection of Bill and Hillary having been in his law classes either.

[thecraw]

Let's just say I'd be more apt to believe this thing is authentic if there was something a little bit embarrassing on it. Nothing that disqualifies Barry from office, but just something a little bit "off." After all, that was the chatter coming from the Dems during the early days of this debate.

This is just way too neat and tidy...Something smells...