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BREAKING: White House releases Obama's birth certificate
Via DRUDGE: CNN Politics ^ | April 27th, 2011 | CNN Political Unit

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:58:01 AM PDT by Polybius

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To: old curmudgeon

I did see that his BC was signed by a Local Registrar named U K L Lee (ukulele).

What is up w/ that?


241 posted on 04/27/2011 7:26:34 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

“But Beck and a lot of others should spend some time examining all the stuff that has been documented over the forged COLBs including this latest.”

They are not forged and whoever convinced you they are is mistaken and got you mistaken.


242 posted on 04/27/2011 7:32:14 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Marine_Uncle; Gilbo_3; Jeff Winston; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
Here is my current theory why Obama released the BC now(pure speculation)

Up till recently Obama was the focus of anything bad which is why he baited Republicans to offer up ‘big budget’ cuts. Then Ryan's plan gets voted on and passed by house Republicans. Obama sees his 2012 strategy suddenly appear :
Republicans want to take away your medicare to pay for tax cuts for the rich, big oil, and foreign corporations.” It's simple, it's understandable and it's hard to defend against, because the defense involves complex interactions and unknowns. Obama’s got his plan.

But then that Carnival Barker Trumps gets the MSM to talk about his accusations endlessly. They may disagree with Trump's accusations while reporting it but that is the story they see that sells. Plus we all see our gasoline prices going up. No one is covering Obama’s attacks on 'the plan' and the disrupted Town Hall meetings (but MSNBC.) So Obama has to try the get the BC talk off the news so he can get the MSM to focus on how 'Republicans are in trouble'.

Why Obama didn't do this before I have no way of knowing, Beck says it's because the references to his father on the BC.

I don't like Trump at all but I always try to be honest about everyone. That is what strikes me as plausable.

243 posted on 04/27/2011 7:32:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: WOSG

I believe the image blocks came from the database. That is why both CS1 and CS2 codes are there. Notice that they are on different segments.

I am convinced the Creative Suites was used to compose this. I have used both CS1 and CS2. And I worked with extracting document intelligence data from .pdf files. I did that for a living for 5-1/2 years. I used PDFTK and Grep to accomplish that. Another story.


244 posted on 04/27/2011 7:40:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: GourmetDan

I have no idea, but remember that the natives have some very odd names, as for instance the founder of the hospital.

So maybe like the North American Indians, they take names like Running Deer, Sitting Bull, etc.

Beats me.


245 posted on 04/27/2011 7:47:46 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: angcat

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe the LIE


246 posted on 04/27/2011 7:52:32 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: sickoflibs

Quite credible point. Obama is political and moved because of political necessity.

It’s clear that Trump was scoring hits. In the past, Obama team liked the birther story because it was a part of their ‘they are racists’ line, but Trump is too high profile and too inured to the typical attacks. I ALSO THINK IT WAS TRUMP’S QUESTIONS ABOUT COLLEGE GRADES THAT REALLY GOT THEM MOVING. The questions were PILING UP, not just about ‘where’s the BC?’ and they needed to stop it. Consider how seriously the WH takes Trump when they do this:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53816.html#comments

So yes, the Obama “Game Plan” has been getting ‘off-message’ with all the Birther stuff but also Trump’s other questions.

In the long run, this issue if it sticks around helps Obama, because he can use it as a foil “see my moron racist enemies are so stuck on stupid they cant even read my birth certificate.” Just like in 2008 he talked about how he didnt look like the folks you see on money.

Obama does want to take on Ryan and make the debate a medi-scare thing. For that reason, the GOP IMHO should NOT take the bait, and should instead focus RIGHT NOW on a simple message “No Debt Ceiling raise without serious andfundamental budget reform.” It hs to be spending caps and FY2012 spending levels below 20% of GDP.


247 posted on 04/27/2011 7:54:22 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Marine_Uncle

“Of course not. It still uses the word African as the father’s ethnic background. “

His father was an African. There is a fill-in-the-blank space on the birth certificate and Obama’s Kenyan Dad put “African”. Nothing wrong with that.

You are simply inventing objections for the sake of objecting. This objection has been raised and debunked many times.


248 posted on 04/27/2011 8:01:18 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Texas Fossil

You are wrong to be so convinced.

CS in PDF is the Color Space operator. It has nothing to do with Creative Suites. This is nothing more than normal PDF syntax in there, defining color spaces, and is exactly as expected from a normal PDF from a scanned source. Look at page 236 and elsewhere in the PDF reference guide.See:

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_reference_1-7.pdf


249 posted on 04/27/2011 8:09:35 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Texas Fossil

You are wrong to be so convinced.

CS in PDF is the Color Space operator. It has nothing to do with Creative Suites. This is nothing more than normal PDF syntax in there, defining color spaces, and is exactly as expected from a normal PDF from a scanned source. Look at page 236 and elsewhere in the PDF reference guide.See:

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_reference_1-7.pdf


250 posted on 04/27/2011 8:09:44 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: WOSG
In the long run, this issue if it sticks around helps Obama, because he can use it as a foil “see my moron racist enemies are so stuck on stupid they cant even read my birth certificate.” Just like in 2008 he talked about how he didnt look like the folks you see on money. Obama does want to take on Ryan and make the debate a medi-scare thing. For that reason, the GOP IMHO should NOT take the bait, and should instead focus RIGHT NOW on a simple message

Your words above reflect my thoughts too.

Republicans cant be seen to associated with Trump especially now. I remember the 90s when James Carville would go on the attacks, Clinton would be asked about it and responded who???

I still got bones to pick with Trump, just not tonight, need a rest :)

251 posted on 04/27/2011 8:14:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: WOSG
"They are not forged and whoever convinced you they are is mistaken and got you mistaken."
So we have been totally mislead on the issue of using African, or AFRICAN as an ethnic reference, verse negro during that period of time? I have gone along with that theory since I have been around since prior to that time period. It simply seemed to make sense.
252 posted on 04/27/2011 8:21:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: WOSG
"You are simply inventing objections for the sake of objecting."
Not really in this case. I am trying like many to sort out what is factual and what is not. But as I commented a minute ago in last comment to you, I simply do not from personal experience remember the ethnic referenced being used when I was growing up during that era. So naturally it seemed to be an honest point.
253 posted on 04/27/2011 8:26:17 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Election official Tim Adams was there and has stated for the record that he could not find any trace of Obama’s long form birth certificate”

Just cause he says he couldnt find it, doesnt mean its not there. Either Tim Adams didn’t look hard enough, didnt have authority to look in the right place, or was not telling the truth. His statements have now been contradicted with this latest BC release.

We now have a certified copy of the real original Birth Certificate. It confirms many particulars already known about Obama’s birth. And it confirms what the DOH head had said prior, which was that Obama’s original birth cert was on file with the State of Hawaii.


254 posted on 04/27/2011 8:27:28 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: sickoflibs
"but I always try to be honest about everyone."
Likewise. Lots of really big issues on the table. And so much information messaging going on, along with outright false information being perpetrated from so many different fronts.
And of course things that glare out in our faces for need for remedy. I think it is time for me to sign off already. This stuff can get to one after a while.
255 posted on 04/27/2011 8:33:59 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
RE :"I think it is time for me to sign off already. This stuff can get to one after a while. "

Good night, you strike me as a good guy.

256 posted on 04/27/2011 8:38:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Marine_Uncle

“You are simply inventing objections for the sake of objecting.”
“ I am trying like many to sort out what is factual and what is not.”

OK, it is factual to point out that there no boxes or categories there, just a typed field, and the parents are self-describing themselves. Race on a birth certificate doesn’t come from a hospital worker looking at the father and writing down the father’s race; it is determined by asking the father what he considers his race to be. So the question is, would it be reasonable for Barack Obama Sr, born in Kenyan, to call his race ‘African’? It is.

“I simply do not from personal experience remember the ethnic referenced being used when I was growing up during that era.”

Now familiar to you, but I’m guessing you did not grow up in Kenya. Maybe in America the term “African” was out of place, but to guy who was in Kenya until 11 months before this kid was born, why wouldnt he list his race as African?
It wasn’t how Americans described Africans, but how Africans described Africans in 1961. many Africans from that era referred themselves as the “African Race”.

Just by googling, you can see other references by Africans to the “African race” ... including this question:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-191762.0.html#msg3040510


257 posted on 04/27/2011 8:40:58 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Hotlanta Mike

At long last, are you going to give it up on this and admit Obama was born in Honolulu?


258 posted on 04/27/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: sickoflibs

“Republicans cant be seen to associated with Trump especially now. I remember the 90s when James Carville would go on the attacks, Clinton would be asked about it and responded who???”

Actually, Trump is working out GREAT for the GOP for now. He’s a great attack dog, and frankly, will not be the nominee.

If he goes off on other GOP candidates, it can get dicey though.


259 posted on 04/27/2011 8:57:54 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: WOSG

Fair enough for the time being.


260 posted on 04/27/2011 9:13:38 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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