Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by null and void
Just announced. Obama to speak in 45 minutes. (6:45 AM PST)
So the Nordyke family also forged their document?
This is an abstract, not a long form. Whether it’s forged or not remains to be seen.
Could you tell the significance of the slant etc? I’m sneaking on and off FR - must feed the hungry (not me..!) and it’s impossible to read every single thread although I want to.
“We could all argue about this until the cows come home, but until this matter is settled by the USSC it will just be two competing schools of thought arguing with each other, nothing more.”
Except that there are numerous USSC decisions that refer to NBC and each one defines it as born in country to two citizen parents, and that the founding fathers used Vittals “Law of Nations” as the reference in writting the Constitution.
There is no rational reason why the Founding Fathers would want the highest office in the land to be available to anyone other than someone Thoroughly and Uniquely American. The vast majority of Americans are Natural Born Citizens and requiring that quality of citizenship is not an onerous requirement.
In fact allowing anyone not meeting that very basic quality of birth goes against the very reason of having eligibility in the first place.
This was reserached and quoted numerous times in the last couple of years. Do the homework, it’s all here on FR. People could not just invent whatever races or ethnicities they wanted, they had to pick from a list, and the appropirate one was “Negro”, “African” was not on the list.
“I am not going to go track it down.
I gave you the name
Nguyen.
Go find it.”
Wynn??????
Just as I thought you have no link, nor rational basis for your stated opinion. Thanks anyway.....
“However, before walking for office (I wouldn’t call what he did “Running”) in ‘08, he went through the machinations of assuring that he was eligible.”
Actually the Senate Democrats brought up the eligibility issue with McCain then gave McCain a pass on the NBC issue in order to provide cover for Obama. Notice that Res 911 highlights the nationally of the parents as the most inportant aspect of NBC when they dealt with McCain. Also notice that the Senate never examined Obama .......hmmmmmmm...
Is it?
People could not just invent whatever races or ethnicities they wanted, they had to pick from a list, and the appropirate one was “Negro”, “African” was not on the list.
Couldn't they? I'm not finding the Hawaiian Administrative Code mentioned here any time before today. I may be wrong, but if you have a citation, it's up to you to produce it.
Federal law specified various races to appear in birth certificates, among them "Negro," but it's not clear that state law restricted registrars to those categories.
Especially not in Hawaii where the race on one's birth certificate might be "Chinese," "Japanese," "Korean," "Filipino," or even "Portuguese" or "Puerto Rican."
When the data was submitted to the federal government it was made to conform to federal guidelines, but you'd have to provide the proof that the state imposed those federal categories on its own employees.
Well what extra information is on a long form? Got a picture of one? My COLB looks basically exactly like this, and its the only one anyone has ever asked for.
It’s been working for him for years. I can only assume he’s giving up this advantage is to torpedo his first contender - Trump. He’s definitely trumped Trump.
Wonder what he has on the next GOP frontrunner that comes up.
It’s been working for him for years. I can only assume he’s giving up this advantage is to torpedo his first contender - Trump. He’s definitely trumped Trump.
Wonder what he has on the next GOP frontrunner that comes up.
Well then you go right ahead. Have a good time at it. Best wishes to ya.
What is working? I don’t see all the skeptics rolling over and declaring BO a natural born citizen, by virtue of what he released today, those who didn’t see any value in the issue haven’t changed their minds, and the true BO believers never have and still don’t care.
I can’t deny that. But then who in their lives has everything just perfect? I am NOT defending him, I just couldnt pass that particular test.
If its a faulty stamp its a faulty stamp. But I am sorry, a presidency isn’t going to hinge on one letter of a single stamp.
People with a lot more expertise than we have, along with access will be looking at it I am sure. Trump was clear that he wasn’t letting go of the issue until he determined it was legit.
For us, we cannot determine the legitimacy of a given document by simply seeing a photo of it. It isn’t possible. You have to have the document itself. I predict he won’t give the document up for forensic analysis. Call me nuts or a bad conservative, what ever... but I don’t think he is gonna do it. He is one arrogant SOB and he got taken down a peg or two today. That in and of itself is some justice. That bastard let an American HERO, a man who has saved lives of our most precious assets, our soldiers... rot in PRISON! WTF. Seriously? Really? Yeah, he won’t let it go for analysis. He doesn’t CARE about anything other than his own ego. And that took a whack today. RIGHT ON!
Trump has made more progress than anyone else so far. He has the street cred on this one. We have to take that at face value. In many ways, we don’t have a choice in that.
Bingo.
Ask yourself this: does a shark leave the area when there is blood in the water?
EXACTLY. Apparently even Oprah asked him about it today on her “interview” with Barry and Michelle. Just saw it on Greta.
Now, Barry, tell us... How can a man born under the British Nationality Act of 1948 be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?
The writer of the 14th Amendment the Honorable John Bingham of Ohio says you CAN’T.
You must be born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States in order to be a Natural Born Citizen.
Any answer there Barry?? Hum? Anything? (((Crickets)))
The smoke screen has been blown away. And Barry has no defense left. Do we have the stones to keep asking the question?
I don’t know how the rest of his interview went on Oprah, but from his statements from the clip I saw he stated “I remembered my birthplace” talking strangely as if as a baby one would know his circumstance. How drugged out is this guy?
Box # 23 “evidence of delayed filing or alteration” appears to be whited out by appearance of a square defined void area surrounded by shading
Many would agree with you, including myself. But, there are others who would argue against our position. I believe it will take a USSC ruling to settle the matter once and for all.
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