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1 posted on 04/25/2011 2:59:25 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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Cummins and Kohler make some nice generator set packages for the home. Stay away from Generac. They offer both gas fired and diesel sets. They can be installed with automatic transfer switches which automatically start the generator when the power goes out and shuts it off when the power returns. All this will cost more, but it all depends I guess how much you are willing to spend.


32 posted on 04/25/2011 3:33:58 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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33 posted on 04/25/2011 3:34:45 PM PDT by xp38
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Cummins and Kohler make some nice generator set packages for the home. Stay away from Generac. They offer both gas fired and diesel sets. They can be installed with automatic transfer switches which automatically start the generator when the power goes out and shuts it off when the power returns. All this will cost more, but it all depends I guess how much you are willing to spend.


35 posted on 04/25/2011 3:37:34 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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If I want to run my freezer/fridge for an extended period of time, what would be best?


Google non-electric freezer/refrigerator.


37 posted on 04/25/2011 3:40:53 PM PDT by burroak
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Do you have to rely on refrigerator/freezer? Can you can or dehydrate instead?


41 posted on 04/25/2011 3:48:11 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I recommend a diesel generator with large, above ground tank if possible. There is a reason that all major businesses, hospitals, etc have diesel generators for emergency power.

It might not be a bad idea to have both a large and a small generator (so that if the fuel starts to deplete you can shift to powering your most critical devices). Also, very small refrigerators could be helpful for the same reason (to refrigerate medicines, for example).

And, don't forget to give serious consideration to having a transfer switch installed so that you don't end up with extension cords running everywhere and requiring you to keep doors open, etc.

Gas and propane are too volatile for my taste Also, after a major disaster, I would bet that diesel would become available again before propane (since diesel powers many vehicles).

Also, you must add a stabilizer chemical to diesel to get it to store for the long term.

Solar won't give you sufficient power.

43 posted on 04/25/2011 3:49:02 PM PDT by The Duke
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For what it’s worth I’ve got a Genrac / Guardian 15Kwatt (it’s 4 years old). It runs all my lights, refrigerator, well, (I’m also on septic), and gas fireplace and I’m at maybe 5k to 7k watts. I didn’t hook up the heat pump systems because with the fireplace I’m fine in the winter and I also have a gas stove.

Got a 500gal underground propane tank and I’ve been without power for 7 days in the winter and I didn’t burn much fuel. It’s all auto or manual which I use cause I don’t want it running if I’m not home and we lose power.

My input anyway... http://www.generac.com/Residential/Guardian/Products/Guardian_Series_17_kW/


45 posted on 04/25/2011 3:49:56 PM PDT by maddog55
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http://www.backwoodshome.com/index.html


46 posted on 04/25/2011 3:50:15 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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saving


47 posted on 04/25/2011 3:53:10 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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I know SOLAR is a bad word on FreeRepublic, but...

I’ve been running a completely Solar refrigerator for about three years on a single battery charged by an 85 watt panel. The only problem I’ve had is frozen beer when I don’t get to the cabin for a couple of weeks (I live in southern Arizona, and the temps are pretty high in the summer, still no problem for this great unit.)

Check out Sundanzer for information on the fridge, they also sell freezers http://www.sundanzer.com/Home.html. They’re a little pricey, but they work great.


48 posted on 04/25/2011 3:53:10 PM PDT by azsportsterman
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If you like to experiment, go to the following website. It’s title is “Construction of a simplified Wood Gas Generator for Fueling Internal Combustion Engines in a Petroleum Emergency”. The information is free and I printed it out some time ago. I haven’t tried it yet but they say you can run a generator off of this design. They even tell you how to change the generator to run off this system. Sounds crazy but it just might work. I’ve seen worse inventions.


51 posted on 04/25/2011 3:57:26 PM PDT by RC2
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What type of load?

Solar will be massively expensive if you are going to power anything significant.

However you can pick up a real nice Generac and then get a tri-fuel conversion kit so that it will run gas, natural gas or propane.

Propane is nice because it has no shelf-life...will remain virtually unchanged for decades.


55 posted on 04/25/2011 4:01:09 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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What type of load?

Solar will be massively expensive if you are going to power anything significant.

However you can pick up a real nice Generac and then get a tri-fuel conversion kit so that it will run gas, natural gas or propane.

Propane is nice because it has no shelf-life...will remain virtually unchanged for decades.


56 posted on 04/25/2011 4:01:18 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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Of course if money is no object then look at the Geneforce battery based systems...


57 posted on 04/25/2011 4:02:59 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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No you don’t. You need to learn how to live without electricity.

I’m just sayin’.


58 posted on 04/25/2011 4:05:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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A couple of years ago I considered a backup generator. I checked off which circuits I wanted to back up. In the end only the light circuits were there so I decided on a whole house backup. I looked on the Internet and a 20Kw generator was advertised for $5000... just for the generator! I found a dealer in the area who installed..everything, inluding transfer switch for $5000. So that’s the route I went. With computers and esentials on UPS I haven’t had a glitch....


59 posted on 04/25/2011 4:06:25 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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I would recommend about 6500 watts with a Honda motor running on propane or natural gas. You can get one that starts automatically when the power goes off or one that you start manually (these are cheaper). Get a GenTran switch which will handle 6 circuits and have an electrician install it. When the power goes off, if your generator starts automatically, you want the circuits to switch automatically. If you manually want to start your generator when the power goes off, you have the throw the switches on the GenTran to connect the circuits in your house.
Hook up you freezer, your refrigerator, your air conditioner, your hot water heater, your furnace, and some lights (and your water pump if you have one) It is nice to be able to flush your toilets.

Start the generator at least monthly and let it run until it warms up.

Good Luck.


63 posted on 04/25/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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what would be best?

Personally, I'd start looking in "CHAT"

64 posted on 04/25/2011 4:25:39 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's a beautiful day and I'm glad I can see it in color.......)
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If you can run a generator on Solar, you don’t need a generator...


65 posted on 04/25/2011 4:34:02 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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How much of your house do you want to power up? I’ve never heard of a practical solar generator for real stand-by power. We have a Generac 20KW, propane powered unit with an automatic transfer switch. It’s great. The whole system, including electrical installation and the 500 gallon propane tank with gas ran about $9K.


70 posted on 04/25/2011 4:52:04 PM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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