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I'm trying to get the facts that show why the USA got into WW1. As I can tell, Wilson was president. The US was neutral...did not want to get involved. Britian and the Allied Powers were losing the war against the Central Powers. The Balfour Declaration promised a Jewish state in Palestine. The Lusitana was armed and ordered to attack German U-boats. Propaganda was created to convince American populace that Germany needed to be conqered.

Can anyone help me get more info on the subject?

Thanks. FG

1 posted on 04/23/2011 8:54:00 PM PDT by freepguy
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The truth is that Woodrow Wilson got us into the war because he saw it as an opportunity to enact “war socialism” in the US.


50 posted on 04/23/2011 9:37:30 PM PDT by DesScorp
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What got the USA into WW1? Info needed.

I'm still trying to figure out what got the U.S. into a war with Libya? Did we have a dumba$$ for President then, too?

53 posted on 04/23/2011 9:41:37 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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The U.S. got into the war because it was rumored that BP was going to drill for oil in the Gulf of Mexico.


62 posted on 04/23/2011 9:48:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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I was going to suggest Barbara Tuchman's Guns of August, but discovered this instead.

Sounds like it should answer your question, since it appears that it has been asked before.

The Proud Tower

I think this portion of the article on her essays may answer your question:

"I remembered almost nothing about it. It is not, as I thought, a rather elegiac portrait of the good old days before the world tore itself apart, but a clear-eyed depiction of how the nations of the West were setting themselves up, all unwittingly, for the catastrophe to come."

86 posted on 04/23/2011 10:26:07 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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The Lusitania was carrying war materiel, but it certainly had no capability to take offensive action against submarines. It was an ocean liner. The only way it could attack anything would be by ramming.


92 posted on 04/23/2011 10:30:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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Simplest explanation is probably Mencken’s: By the late Spring and Early Summer of 1917 Germany had basically won WW-I fair and square; France, England, and Russia richly deserved to spend the next hundred years under German hegemony or dominion and WOULD have... except that Germany had exhausted herself doing it and at that point in time, Britain owed those big banks in NY too much money for Wilson to allow her to lose a major war.


94 posted on 04/23/2011 10:31:47 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Propaganda was created to convince American populace that Germany needed to be conqered.

This is an odd way to phrase things.

Propaganda it might have been. Or not. In any case I cannot see the word "conquered" being appropriate here. "defeated," perhaps.
Is English your first language?

98 posted on 04/23/2011 10:46:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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We held ourselves in reserve until the Germans started threatening NY. Then we moved in to stop them.

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“Oddball”

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110 posted on 04/24/2011 12:02:20 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (We live two lives, the life we learn and the life we live with after that.)
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Restricted submarine [U-Boat] warfare. At the time of WWI, subs were required to give merchant ships [even armed ones] warning and a chance to abandon ship - per international accords.

Germany implemented unrestricted submarine warfare in 1915 [no warning sinkings] and was presured by the threat of war with the US into discontinuing it. The Lusitania was sunk during 1915 and was an armed merchant cruiser and was also carrying arms and ammo as well as passengers including 200+ US citizens.

The German complaints that the US was selling arms to the UK in violation of the neutrality act were ignored. The official policy was to sell to all sides but, they had to pick the weapons up in the US. The RN blockade ment that in practice only the allies could buy from the US.

After the 1915 incidents the UK intercepted a German proposal to Mexico to enter the war on the German side if the US entered the war on the Allied side. Promised to get the Mexican territories lost in the Mexican-American War back. The UK promptly gave a copy of the intercept to the USG and the press to further poisen US-German relations.

In 1917 Germany resumed unrestricted submarine warfare. Wilson asked for and got a declaration of war shortly after on the basis of “Freedom of the seas”.

Ironically, one of the first orders to the US Submarine Force Pacific in WWII [24 years later] was to implement “Unrestricted Submarine Warfare” against Japan.


116 posted on 04/24/2011 2:26:16 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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Too lazy to do your own research, Bub?


141 posted on 04/24/2011 4:12:08 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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I think Wellington said it best when he said: “The loser is the one that makes the last big mistake.”

WWI was full of mistakes and conflicting interests. Germany’s last big mistake was the resumption of Unrestricted Submarine Warfare in 1917 - it provided the cause bella for the US to enter. Before that, Russia was out, France had mutneys in its forces, and the UK was worn out. It was fresh US troops that carried the fight in 1918...


143 posted on 04/24/2011 4:14:04 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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1. We had sold an enormouse ammount of stuff to France and England on credit. If they lost American industry wasn’t going to get paid. That bolstered the support of Amerian industry to get involved when things were looking bad for the UK and France.
2. Wilson was a socialist and a war crisis allowed him to move on progressive policies. The two most destructive being Constitutional amendments that created the direct election of Senators (thus ending the first Republic) and the institution of a progressive income tax.


145 posted on 04/24/2011 4:44:03 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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The direct reasons were German unrestricted submarine warfare against all shipping around the British Isles (Lusitania) and the Zimmerman note that offered Mexico US territory if Mexico agreed to openly attack the US.

The indirect reasons were that Americans had a stronger cultural affinity for England than they did for Germany; the stupidity of the German army in carrying out atrocities in Belgium and Kaiser Wilhelm’s dunderheaded arrogance.


148 posted on 04/24/2011 5:27:13 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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It had something to do with the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.


154 posted on 04/24/2011 5:38:12 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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You might really enjoy reading Ken Follett’s new book “Fall of Giants” - the first of a trilogy. It’s fiction but based on the real events of WWI, and as he says, is based on things that happened or “could have happened”. A great read.


178 posted on 04/24/2011 7:10:07 AM PDT by bigbob (u)
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Bookmark. I’d like to add more but WWI is not an area I’ve read a great deal on. It’s fascinating though, you feel like there were chess pieces being moved around the board setting up for something bigger.


217 posted on 04/24/2011 8:39:20 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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I'm curious as to how you are connecting the Balfour Declaration to America's entry into World War I. The reason I ask is because the United States Congress declared war on Germany on April 6th, 1917, a full 7 months before the Balfour Declaration was officially presented.

The Balfour Declaration was dated November 2, 1917. It is real short in fact here it is in total:

November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour

This statement didn't hit the American press until almost two weeks later when it was discussed in a November 14th New York Times article titled: "ZIONISTS GET TEXT OF BRITAIN'S PLEDGE; Balfour's Declaration Promises Defense of Jews' Rights in Palestine and Elsewhere."

At any rate, I'm just interested how you made the connection to your research into America's entry into the Great War.

As for resources to help with your research, I also recommend John Keegan's "The First World War" as well as Barbara Tuchman's "Guns of August". On top of that I recommend Jennifer D. Keene's "Doughboys, the Great War, and the Remaking of America". This book may not answer your question as to America's entry into the war, but it is a good work on attempting to tie the social and military aspects of that time period together. It provides a better sense of context as you look at other source material.

219 posted on 04/24/2011 10:57:09 PM PDT by CougarGA7
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We had Germany conduct unrestricted submarine warfare, sinking many, many ships, the Lusitania being only one of these. Some of these ships were armed, as opposed to say the British fishing fleet, which Germany also attacked.
We had German saboteurs attacking American companies when they worked for on projects for the Triple Entente. And we had a German germ warfare campaign against cattle and horses. But the coup was the Zimmerman telegram.

Germany tried its hand at disrupting many countries. It pushed genral jihad against the British. It tried to get the Irish to raise up. And it tried to get many different people's under the Russian heel to rise up.

Don't know what is wrong with your brain that you feel a need to blame Jews. Germany used ties with Germans and Irish in America to keep the US out of the war. And Central Power Jews volunteered to fight. Which is more than I can say for those in Czarist Russia. And before you play the silly Judeo-Bolshevik line, it was the German High Command that financed the Bolsheviks and helped them enter Russia.

I had a grandfather and a great-grandfather fight in this war. My father's father was an officer in the Austro-Hungarian army. He and his cousins volunteered out of patriotic loyalty to a government they served for generations. My maternal grandfather's father was drafted in the Czarist army to fight for a regime that persecuted him.

231 posted on 04/30/2011 11:22:07 AM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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It was the resumption of unrestricted submarine warfare (January 31st 1917). Wilson severed diplomatic relations with Germany on February 3rd and asked Congress to declare war on April 2nd. They passed the declaration of war on April 4th and Wilson signed it on April 6th.

Just what was going on in most of February and into March, I don't know. I guess they had to set everything up for mobilization, and keep a close eye on what was going on in France and in Russia.

Other factors like the Lusitania and the Zimmerman Telegram certainly did much to set the stage for the declaration of war. You could add Britain's cutting the German telegraphic cable, Germany's sinking other neutral ships, US loans to Britain, and the ancestry of Wilson and most other Americans as contributing factors.

But I suspect the basic answer is that Wilson wanted to get into the war to prevent unrestricted submarine warfare from putting Britain out of the war. Or perhaps he recognized that unrestricted submarine warfare would mean Germany's sinking many US ships and the alternatives were to 1) cease trade with Britain (unthinkable at the time) 2) put up with loss of American lives and cargo (likewise unthinkable) or 3) go to war.

But Wilson's speech is probably available online. You could google it and come to your own conclusion.

245 posted on 04/30/2011 12:56:13 PM PDT by x
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