What race is “African”?
Your links are screwy - is this your joke or did Snopes pull this?
This might help as you do not have to read backwards of only what has bled through.
When I click on the snopes link above, I get an ugly green face sticking his tongue out at me. Is that code for “you’ve been duped”?
Trump has zer0 running scared and stupid, So many new articles just falling from the sky about zer0 being born in Hawaii and birthers being dopes.
I’ve seen copies where the blue 2007 date is pretty clear up front.
May I ask how this revelation is significant?
August 1961 is the date that Obama’s birth was filed with the Hawaii DoH and assigned a certificate number by some clerk.
The 11/01 Revision is the date when the printed format of all Certifcations of Live Birth were last revised. When the Hawaii DoH changes the border, state seal or the fields to be printed on a particular form, in this case the Certification of Live Birth form, they issue a document revision date which is then printed at the bottom of all such forms printed until they make a change and issue a new revision date.
The June 2007 date is when the Hawaii DoH certified this particular printing of Obama’s COLB.
If Obama requested another certified copy of his COLB from the Hawaii DoH, the “Date Filed” would still be August 1961. The light blue datestamp would be whatever date the department printed and certified the additional COLB. The “Revision” date at the bottom may or may not be different. That would depend on whether or not the department has modified the border, seal, or selected fields since 11/01, which is highly likely.
I'm surprised some serious researchers haven't completed this task by now.
Me, I just kibitz, I got nothing.
Uh.. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Computers were not used to do overlay printing in 1961. The 2007 date for the purported generation of the COLB is reasonable, the way the forger wanted it.
What is not reasonable is the father's race being AFRICAN (as reported above). It is also not reasonable that Barry would drop the $12.50 for the COLB but spend $2M of "somebody's money" and copious court time to keep the long form from view.
We know Barry cannot be a natural born citizen, as Barry's daddy, BHO I, was a British citizen, and Stanley Dunham was too young to confer citizen status to her infant.
For the media and others to mischaracterize "birthers" as those whose belief hinges on whether Barry was born in the US or not is certainly journalistic malpractice and a conspiracy against the American citizenry.
The media, politicians and many others are fighting even beyond their default demrat leanings to keep this covered up because they likely entered a conspiracy not to question either McCain's or Barry's natural born status, probably with blackmail-like disclosures to be made if anyone renegs.
SCOTUS may ultimately recognize Congress' responsibility to make the determination about Presidential qualifications, despite no court saying it didn't have jurisdiction.
In certifying the electoral college's results in 2008, Dick Cheney did not give an opportunity for anyone to voice an objection, but recourse through Congres on behalf of citizenry is only defined to be through elections and in some cases, recall. Such processes are predictably too slow to eject BS from office during his elected term.
Nonetheless, if a past Pres__ent were to be conclusively shown to have falsified federal election documents or suborned false informaiton to be entered on his behalf, a non-Holder-led Justice Department might file charges and prosecute--long "after the horse has escaped the barn".
HF
IND6NESIAN G6 H6ME
" Bet on it."
Either way, this document, real or forged, does not answer the "native born" question.
In 1961, I find it difficult to believe that a man’s “race” would have been listed as ‘AFRICAN’, which is a modern PC term. In 1961, they would have used ‘NEGRO’, ..........
Anyone have *%&^ of steel to try this and just ask?
http://www.chamberofcommerce.com/honolulu-hi/1911849-onaka-alvin-t-phd/
Sorry, I don’t know how to post images. They are available at the original web site. Long article, I had it saved in my favs. I don’t know if this information is still operative. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t.
http://israelstreams.com/?israelinsider.html?http://israelinsider.com/Articles1/Politics/12956.htm
Blogger manipulates birth certificate image, undermining Obama claims
By Israel Insider staff July 3, 2008
A crop from the image for which opendna aka Jay McKinnon takes credit (see context in reproduction below). Posted on Photobucket and in comments attached to the Daily Kos blog post where the purported Obama birth certificate appears
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider’s revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the diligent detective work of independent investigative journalists in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate The Daily Kos, a “progressive” blog site, and the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance. Moreover, the blog and the campaign have been negligent in allowing the promotion of obviously fake official documents together with the purported image of Obama’s birth certificate.
ORIGINS OF THE SUSPECT IMAGE ON DAILY KOS
The blog entry, posted by the site founder Kos (Markos Moulitsas), is presented as a response to a request by Jim Geraghty of the National Review Online, who had, three days before, called for the Obama campaign to release the candidate’s birth certificate:
Having done some Obama-rumor debunking that got praise from Daily Kos (a sign of the apocalypse, no doubt), perhaps the Obama campaign could return the favor and help debunk a bunch of others with a simple step: Could they release a copy of his birth certificate?
Reporters have asked for it and been denied, and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public [...]
So Kos aka Moulitsas goes out and gets one. One impressed commenter on the site asks Kos where he got it. He answers:
“I asked the campaign. This ‘journamalism [sic] thing actually works sometimes.”
But why would a presidential campaign that has its own “Fight the Smears” website rely on a radical left-wing blog like Daily Kos to post its official documents, especially one as sensitive and controversial as a birth certificate? A few days later the Obama site would post a very low resolution, barely legible image — it still is there on the site, with no reference to the one first posted at the Daily Kos.
Yet the service of Daily Kos to the Obama campaign raises some questions: Who in the campaign would be authorized to release a personal document of Barack Obama’s birth certificate? Was it a paper document that they sent to Kos to scan, or did the Obama campaign scan the original and send it to Kos? If so, why not just post it on the Fight the Smears site? Or is there another possible source for the document? There is no documentation of the provenance of this image, from whom and why it was transmitted to Daily Kos, and in which format. None, that is, except for the say-so of Markos Moulitsas, who said he simply asked the Obama campaign for it.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the “birth certificate” he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama “Fight the Smears” website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, the primary record of US birth, Obama cannot prove that he fulfills the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President and throwing the race into turmoil. His presumed Kenyan-born father was foreign-born, and his mother was too young at the time of birth to confer natural born status by virtue of her American citizenship. Thus his citizenship comes down to proving he was born in the USA, and his campaign has staked its credibility on the authenticity of the Daily Kos-derived birth certificate image. (These aspects of the case are covered extensively in the previous article in this series.)
WHO IS OPENDNA/JAY McKINNON?
Jay McKinnon ask opendna, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called opendna.com and uses the opendna screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
opendna posted on his Photobucket album two versions of a “Certification of Live Birth” document image, here and here. Both, as demonstrated in the respective blogs of analysts Polarik and JimJ, have a common visual signature (a dot that appears on all four images) with the images posted on the Daily Kos site image that the Obama campaign has endorsed as genuine on its “Fight the Smears” website and has distributed to news media as the “real” birth certificate of Barack Obama. The signature dot appears on that one, too, when magnified, albeit a bit ... smeared.
Here’s the same anomaly appears in Jay Mckinnon/opendna’s images (highlight added by JimJ:
One image created and posted by opendna is what he describes as a “blank template” of a State of Hawaii Certification of Live Birth. Only two data fields are filled in: the ISLAND OF BIRTH (”Oahu”) and the HOUR OF BIRTH (7:24 PM). Neither of the images have a posted date stamp, but embedded EXIF information contains the time stamp of June 12 at 8:24am, the same day and time Daily Kos posted the purported Obama birth certificate.
Both images lack two salient characteristics present in the Barack Obama birth certificate images claimed by the Daily Kos blog and Obama’s “Fight the Smears” site. The Field under CERTIFICATE NO is blank whereas on the purported “Obama birth certificate” that area is blacked out as if to conceal a real number. In addition, the two documents posted to the opendna account lack the reversed date (June 6, 2007) that appears at the bottom of the purported “Obama birth certificate.” However, the ISLAND OF BIRTH and the HOUR OF BIRTH is identical on the “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” and blank certificates as well as the purported “Obama birth certificate,” which also claims 7:24 pm as the HOUR OF BIRTH and Oahu as the ISLAND OF BIRTH. The odds of an identical time occurring by chance in two certificates is 1440 to 1. Either the former is derived from the latter, or the latter is derived from the former.
If “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” were derivative of the purported “Obama birth certificate,” it would have meant that — in a matter of minutes on the morning of June 12, 2008, opendna would have had to tracelessly erase all fields (save ISLAND OF BIRTH and the HOUR OF BIRTH), and to painstakingly remove the blacked out area near CERTIFICATE NO and the reversed date that appears at the bottom of the purported “Obama birth certificate.” Given the complexity of the background pattern, it would have been difficult to do this without leaving behind traces of the extractions. For what motive would one want to do this? Given that this is an official state document, the risks of altering and tampering with it, or offering it for the express purpose of creating a forgery, or promoting it on a website, would seem to be rather high for fun and games.
The second possibility is that the blank document preceded the purported Obama birth certificate, serving as a “master” for the other. Either one would find a “blank document” and fill it in, or one would scan or photograph an authentic document and then “clean it” to create a blank document that would be filled in with personal details and the necessary stamps and signatures. One might be inclined to leave in type for two rows for alignment purposes and to ensure that the font type and size are consistent. Later one would fill in the blank areas with the desired data and “authentic” markings.
McKINNON’s VISUAL CONFESSION ON THE DAILY KOS
The significance of opendna’s manipulated birth certificate template can be discerned by looking more closely at the Daily Kos blog entry in which the purported Obama birth certificate first appears.
Indeed, the document image was initially posted with a resolution of 1024 x 1000. Only later, after it was discovered that the document stamp and official signature were lacking from the document image, Kos replaced the image with the much higher resolution in which it is claimed that, after a series of complex image manipulation steps using special imaging software, a faint image of something the website claims is the missing seal appears. (Even if there is a seal, it’s not clear it’s a seal from an Obama birth certificate, and there is no visible registrar signature, which is also required for a certified document.) But it is impossible to make out with the naked eye, and the manipulation is illegible and useless for verification purposes.
A possible answer for some of these anomalies is provided in banter between opendna and other commenters in the discussion thread of the blog post.
At 12:41pm, a prior request for a “font expert” is answered by opendna: “How about a certified DHS [Department of Homeland Security] document expert?” And by 1:35pm opendna comes up with a suggestion for a new birth certificate for John McCain: “Why don’t you just print one up for him? Here’s a blank template.”
And sure enough, there in the comments stream, he provides the “almost blank” Hawaii birth certificate image that appears on his Photobucket account, with just the information for the island and hour of birth. Of course, it’s absurd to include a Hawaii birth certificate for John McCain, but what’s striking is the availability of a “blank template” as McKinnon calls it.
The next commenter is impressed: “why can’t Geraghty find this stuff? (but bloggers like you have it at thier fingertips? No wonder print media is in total collapse.”
Now, as the time stamps would have it, opendna’s suggestion is out of synch, appearing 4-5 hours after the initial posting of the purported Obama birth certificate document. That doesn’t make much sense: Kos doesn’t need a birth certificate for Obama — one was already posted!
So why would OpenDNA post this? What explains his suggestion that Kos “print one up” with a “blank template”? Is he just trying to be funny? Is he trying to impress the other commenters? For this did he go through the trouble of removing all the text and the reverse date-stamp? Or was the blank template “just lying around somewhere” on his computer or in some corner of the Internet, just happening to have the identical information as the purported Obama birth certificate?
A hint may be found here (click the image to open one in higher resolution):
“Corvo”, a very frequent commenter on Daily Kos, had written at 10 am: I’m sure that every forgery includes a note that essentially says “Hey! I’m a forgery!”
At 01:27:12 PM PDT, some three hours later, under the subject “!!!” and without any further comment, OpenDNA posts a crop of his Haye I.B Ahphorgerie image.
In other word, in response to Corvo’s comment, McKinnon makes a visual “joke” — “Hey,” the document is saying: “I be a forgery!”
Remarkably, though, the Ahphorgerie crop appears seven minutes before opendna posts the “blank template” birth certificate image with the suggestion to “print one up” for Obama. So opendna was working on the image at that time.
Of course, the almost-blank “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” birth certificate is not a particularly useful counterfeit but, as McKinnon suggests, it could be put to good use by “printing one up” using the “blank template.” It’s as if opendna couldn’t resist boasting, after the release of the “official” Obama version, of his own role: “Hey, I be a forgery!”
It is certainly worthy of note that the “Haye I.B Ahphorgerie” image and comments were subsequently excised from the discussion thread, something that could only have been done by a site administrator or Kos himself. However, the management failed to clean up in the site archive from where these images were pulled and, as of this writing, is still publicly accessible. The suppression of the comments indicates that one or more persons at Daily Kos were involved in the attempted cover-up.
ON THE UNBEARABLE EASE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY
None of this is not to imply that McKinnon himself forged the Obama document, with all the fields filled in with information about the presidential candidate but lacking the visible stamp and signature that alone would make it an authentic document. Nor is their proof positive about how the almost-blank “Oahu 7:24pm” document is related to the one endorsed by the Obama campaign that features those exact details.
The presence on the Daily Kos blog of the admittedly forged almost-blank templates of the document, and the admission of forgery by opendna in that same blog entry, should cause the Obama campaign to reassess its reliance on the image of the birth certificate published by the Daily Kos.
If the website is the home for a self-admitted federally-trained document specialist, with examples of forgery posted concurrently with the image they claim as authentic, is that a venue appropriate for a presidential candidate to showcase the only available high resolution purported image of his vital records? If the birth certificate endorsed by his campaign turns out to be a fraud — and the overwhelming evidence assembled points to it being precisely that — what would that say about the credentials and judgment of the presidential candidate it purports to represent? Let alone his Constitutional eligibility to serve.
Yet the Obama campaign, three weeks later, continues to run a derivative of the Daily Kos posts, and insists on its authenticity while refusing to submit any paper proof of birth for official or independent inspection, as if proof of Constitutional fitness to serve is of no consequence.
In the summer of August 2006, blogging on the Daily Kos, opendna aka Jay McKinnon showed off his DHS-derived knowledge, discussing under the heading of “The Perfect ID Card” the ease of forging US documents, birth certificates in particular:
“Most Americans have worse ID than illegal immigrants. So, you have a letter from a notary that says you told him you’re a citizen. Is that supposed to mean something? I’m certain he would sign one saying I told him I’m a carrot. Birth certificates, are you serious? Take a look at yours. Chances are I could counterfeit it at Kinkos.”
Jay McKinnon may not have had to go that far.
In the course of my subsequent email exchange with McKinnon — more on that in the next article — he at last agreed to release the following statement: “I believe there is overwhelming evidence that Senator Obama is a natural born US Citizen, and I have no evidence to contradict that belief.” He did not relate to the veracity of the Obama birth certificate images.
This is Part 4 of a series. Here’s where you can find Parts 1, 2, and 3. Other articles about Barack Obama and his mysterious background are linked on the upper left of this article.