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Some Obama birth records made public for years
Albany Times Union ^ | 4/23/2011 | Mark Niesse

Posted on 04/23/2011 8:07:35 AM PDT by jdoug666

Lost in the renewed scrutiny into President Barack Obama's birth records is the fact that anyone can walk into a Hawaii vital records office, wait in line behind couples getting marriage licenses and open a baby-blue government binder containing basic information about his birth.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesunion.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: certifigate; indexdata; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump; vitalrecords
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"But those documents are state government property that can't be released to anyone, even the president himself, said Joshua Wisch, special assistant to the state attorney general." SHOW ME THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR SUCH A STATEMENT!
1 posted on 04/23/2011 8:07:40 AM PDT by jdoug666
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“a “certification of live birth” released by the Obama campaign three years ago, the only type of birth certificate the state issues.”

THIS IS A COMPLETE LIE. What are we supposed to do when the news media out and out LIES?

2 posted on 04/23/2011 8:12:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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They are playing with words, the “original” can’t be released as it is a document that must stay on file for subsequent requests for “certified” copies. However a “certified” copy of the original can be obtained for a fee to the proper “requester”


3 posted on 04/23/2011 8:15:27 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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It says, "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4." The address belonged to the parents of Ann Dunham, Obama's mother.

Huh???

4 posted on 04/23/2011 8:15:38 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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5 posted on 04/23/2011 8:17:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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You expect Obama to be counterfeit and to lie about everything. The question is, why is the Congress covering for him?


6 posted on 04/23/2011 8:20:15 AM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

That’s the newspaper birth announcement address. A great deal of time and research on FR led to no evidence that any Obama or Dunham ever resided there.


7 posted on 04/23/2011 8:21:55 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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SHOW ME THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR SUCH A STATEMENT!

That's probably a true statement, that the original BC filled out in 1961 cannot be released to anyone. But they can release high quality, certified photocopies of that original document - which they have not done.

They're playing word games, as if the fact that they can't release the original, almost 50 years old paper document means they can't release copies that would show everything on it.

And 90%+ of the media help them cover their lies.

8 posted on 04/23/2011 8:24:01 AM PDT by Will88
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Correct. Notice all the weasel words. Show a copy of the original long form.


9 posted on 04/23/2011 8:25:06 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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“She issued public statements in 2008 and 2009 saying she had seen the original records.”

Seen the “records”? She never says she saw the original long form.


10 posted on 04/23/2011 8:28:10 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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Here is a LONG FORM received March 2011 from Hawaii...
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/10/hawaii-official-and-ex-official-lie-to-cover-their-tracks/


11 posted on 04/23/2011 8:28:09 AM PDT by biggredd1
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“You expect Obama to be counterfeit and to lie about everything. The question is, why is the Congress covering for him?”

Why didn’t anyone fight Hillary when it was said she had those FBI files?


12 posted on 04/23/2011 8:29:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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But those documents are state government property that can't be released to anyone, even the president himself, said Joshua Wisch, special assistant to the state attorney general.
 
Based on the fact that several people have posted photographs of certified copies of these documents, this statement is patently false.  Of course, the "originals" can't be released.
 
Obama would be able to inspect his birth records if he visited the Health Department in person,
 
Irrelevant.
 
but original records of live birth are never released, he said.
 
Of course not.  But certified copies could be released.

13 posted on 04/23/2011 8:29:36 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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Well I do not have my Birth Certificate. It is on file in Flint, MI. What I do have is a certified copy of my long form birth certificate. After the original copy my parents had was lost, I wrote away to the county clerk for vital statistics in Flint and received a photocopy that is raise stamped ands certified as a direct copy of the original.
14 posted on 04/23/2011 8:31:02 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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The index was reviewed in detail a couple of years ago and it actually raised more questions than it solved.

Additionally why is it that EVERYONE in the media always dirverts the real issue at stake here. Natural born citizen...not born in the USA. His father was a British subject and therefore many contend he cannot be a natural born citizen.

What is really ironic that historically citizenship has been traditionally passed from the father...

Why is everyone so afraid of the truth with these progressives? Everything they do is one fraud or another.


15 posted on 04/23/2011 8:31:12 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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I am continually amazed at all the (supposedly) intelligent folks who have been (and are continuing to be) duped by the leftists into chasing that piece of paper. The "Birth Certificate" is of zero consequence!

To paraphrase another FReeper": even if Øbozo was kicked out of the womb in the Lincoln Bedroom, if his male parent was the British Colonial subject that he (actually Ayers) claimed in his book, he can never be eligible to be President.

Øbozo is either ineligible by virtue of parentage -- or he is guilty of criminal fraud. Either way, he belongs in jail -- not in the White House!


16 posted on 04/23/2011 8:31:23 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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And this article cites polls, as usual, asking if people believe Obama was born in the US. Here’s the question I’d like to see asked in a poll:

Do you believe Obama’s refusal to release a copy of his original BC from 1961 indicates that he has something to hide?

But I’m not holding my breath. That question would be much too logical and pertinent to the realities of this entire charade.


17 posted on 04/23/2011 8:32:13 AM PDT by Will88
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This article is full of intentional misinformation. Explanations have been discussed many times here at FR.

Read this about the phony birth registration page:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/its-a-date/

Much info here: http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/ about both the birth index and the newspaper announcements.

Involved, but worth the time to read it and refute the misinformation.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 8:35:12 AM PDT by Jedidah
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What are we supposed to do when the news media out and out LIES?

It's a great question.

19 posted on 04/23/2011 8:36:22 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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re: why is the Congress covering for him?

Because every single member knows in his or her heart that they dropped the ball by not subjecting him to the same sort of treatment as they did John McCain. Some because they are just too lazy and too busy living high on the hog, others because they knew such an inquiry would result in their man not being able to run and therefore not get elected and in turn not save America.

Congress is at the very bottom of my list of people I trust and/or respect. Certainly there are a few of them that are in it for the right reason and are true to the cause, but for the most part they get there and they lose their soul to the power and flattery that comes with a seat in Congress.


20 posted on 04/23/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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