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What should bother everyone here is this:
The document waved around by people like Stephanopoulis is a Certification of Live Birth.
A certification document is what is known in the legal community is an “abstract.” This means it intends to stand in the shoes of the original document, but for only certain things; it’s a shortcut.
Michele Bachmann is a lawyer. SHE SHOULD KNOW THIS AND SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM ON IT.
Think of it this way. We all carry an auto insurance card; that is an “abstract.” It is supposed to stand in the shoes of our official insurance policy. You know, that thing that is about 40 pages long and details all our coverages. It does NOT detail our insurance coverage, it merely mentions that we have insurance. If the officer issues you a ticket that requires you to show up in court, in front of a judge with your insurance coverage in tow, it had better not be that card alone. You had better be hauling that 40 page document....or else.
The document they are trying to pass through is an ABSTRACT; the document they are hiding is the “40 page insurance policy” if you know what I mean.
The notion that MB did not spit these facts out with complete clarity, given her legal background, to Stephenopolis, is troubling...to say to least.
I like her too much to wonder if she’s gone over to the dark side.
I don't want to "move on." I want to move in.
Is Ms. Bachmann really so clueless as to use the phrase, "move on"?
ML/NJ
As I recall, World Net Daily had put up a $100,000 reward for a copy of Bammy’s long form. What I want to know is, why doesn’t The Donald put up a million dollar reward for an authenicated (by him) copy of the long form. I mean, if The Donald REALLY wants to make the shit hit the fan.......
This is the biggest Constitutional crisis of our time and Bachmann punted. No one should support her since she won’t support the Constitution.
The debt.
Jobs
The economy.
Energy prices.
3 wars.
All far more important.
If the BC is the one item the liberal media want the GOP to run on, that would be it.
Stepsonallofus- +1
Bachmann- 0
Michele morphing into a RINO!
This is why people like Trump. I really like Bachmann but if she can’t handle little Stephie, she wouldn’t have a chance with a full on media assault that would be assured if she was the Republican candidate.
It ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
Bachman slipped. Shes trying way to hard to be a “candidate”.
She needs to focus on being a fighter/leader.
At this point I could not vote for her.
Disappointing, but probably smart politics by Michele.
She walked the mainstream media out on a limb painting her as some extremist whack-job and then sawed the limb off behind them.
Forget it. This chasing of pieces of paper is a waste of time.
The headline is misleading. She said that the cert should be introduced - which sounds an awful lot like presentation of evidence to me.
Fellow Londoners,
My name is — —.
You know me as “Jack the Ripper.”
I’m taking out a full-page advertisement in “The Times” because I wish my fellow citizens to know that I’m innocent of the crimes of which I am accused.
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PHT!!! HEY!!!
HE’S INNOCENT AS FRESH-FALLEN SNOW!!!
WE KNOW BECAUSE HE SAID SO!!!
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So, how do you like life in the Second Republic so far?
Bachmann, being a Lawyer, must not have researched the difference between a COLB and an actual Long Form Certificate. The COLB is offered to anyone with a kid who does not have an actual BC. It makes them legitimate supposedly. She knows better than this.
I picture Obama’s family, knowing that their little bastard was not a US citizen, so they had the COLB issued to make him legitimate. So he could reap the benefits of being an American Citizen, welfare, College, etc,. Then they called the news paper and had phony birth announcements published to back their scam.
Bachmann stepped in it big time.
One of the questions in the article:
“Do you think President Obama is a socialist?”
Republican candidates with spines should answer:
Absolutely not, 0b0z0 isn’t a Socialist. He IS A COMMUNIST.
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Just some thoughts on the Obama birth certificate displayed by Stephanopoulos:
1. Obama's Fight the smears site: I went to Obama's fight the smears site to look at his short form birth certificate where the number is blacked out.
2. I then went to the FactCheck site that Stephanopoulos often refers to, where the number on Obama's short form birth certificate is NOT blacked out. The article is dated 2008.
3. To me, the Obama short form birth certificate that I see on Obama's fight the smears site does not have a visible seal, RAISED or not RAISED, while, the FactCheck birth certificate suddenly has a barely visible RAISED seal. Why does one birth certificate seem to be missing a seal, while another one---supposedly the exact same birth certificate--suddenly has a visible RAISED seal? What is going on?
4. I can't help but find the following information funny: Famous tv person Stephanopoulos and other famous tv people have to go to obscure, lowly website FactCheck---Stephanopoulos refers us to the FactCheck article published in 2008, which is about 3 years old---and Obama's own fight the smears site to download a copy of Obama's so-called birth certificate.
5. I find the above information so funny for this reason: Stephanopoulos and his powerful, world-wide ABC network and other world-wide news networks like FoxNews, CNN,CBS, and NBC can't obtain their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate because Obama won't give it them, even though the one displayed on FactCheck is from 2008, which is about 3 years old.
6. So instead of being able to confront people like Trump with their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate, these powerful, giant world-wide news organizations have to go to an obscure, tiny internet website that most people in the world---especially those people who have no access to a computer and the internet--- have never heard of to download a so-called copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that is about 3 years old whenever they need one to hold up to people like Trump and Bachmann.
7. My point is this: I don't understand why in the past 3 years Obama---out of a sense of being courteous---has NEVER sent a copy of his short form birth certificate---one with a raised Hawaii seal---to all the major networks so that they don't have to continually humiliate themselves by having to download one from FactCheck and/or Obama's fight the smears site every time they needed one.
8. Yes, if I were the head of a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN, I would be so angry that even after 3 years have passed since FactCheck supposedly examined Obama's short form birth certificate, the Obama camp has yet to send major news organizations their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate--- one with the Hawaii raised seal---so that major news organizations didn't have to download a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate from either obscure FactCheck or from Obama's fight the smears website.
Yes, I would be very angry indeed at the way the Obama camp was treating me, if I were a top official at a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN.
9. I can't help but find it very weird behavior that the Obama camp is still reluctant to send major news organizations and tv networks their own Obama short form birth certificate after 3 years have passed since they allowed obscure FactCheck to touch and examine it up close.
10. And I bet that the news networks won't get their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate before election day Nov. 2012 no matter how much or how hard they ask Obama's camp for a copy.
11. To me, if the Obama camp never sends the major news organizations a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that we see on Obama's fight the smears site, then I can only conclude one thing: The Obama camp does not want major news organizations to get their hands on Obama's short form birth certificate, because the Obama camp fears that the major news organizations will find something wrong with the short form birth certificate that will do serious damage to Obama's presidential campaign.
"Bachmann: Thats what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldnt, either. Introduce that, were done. Move on."
Of course, no need to educate yourself on what it means to be a Natural Born Citizen, just take the liars word on it. No need to stand by your oath to uphold the constitution, just politics as usual.
I'm not thinking I want someone this stupid on the ticket.