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Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops
THE NEWSPAPER ^ | April 20, 2011 | swampsniper

Posted on 04/20/2011 6:49:30 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

I don't know anything about this source but this sounds credible.

ACLU seeks information on Michigan program that allows cops to download information from smart phones belonging to stopped motorists.

The Michigan State Police have a high-tech mobile forensics device that can be used to extract information from cell phones belonging to motorists stopped for minor traffic violations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan last Wednesday demanded that state officials stop stonewalling freedom of information requests for information on the program.

ACLU learned that the police had acquired the cell phone scanning devices and in August 2008 filed an official request for records on the program, including logs of how the devices were used. The state police responded by saying they would provide the information only in return for a payment of $544,680. The ACLU found the charge outrageous.

"Law enforcement officers are known, on occasion, to encourage citizens to cooperate if they have nothing to hide," ACLU staff attorney Mark P. Fancher wrote. "No less should be expected of law enforcement, and the Michigan State Police should be willing to assuage concerns that these powerful extraction devices are being used illegally by honoring our requests for cooperation and disclosure."

A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewspaper.com ...


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To: yldstrk
Not a matter of trust.
As they say, "If you don't know your rights, you don't have any."

If you don't object to a search, that doesn't make a search legal. It's 100% up to the cop to know AND FOLLOW the law, not the citizen to inform them. Any sufficiently "dedicated" cop is going to claim that you consented anyway.

Certainly, I'd agree that voicing your rights ("I do not consent to that search.") is logical and advisable, but the lack of such a declaration carries no weight in court.
21 posted on 04/20/2011 8:29:35 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: yldstrk

Also, one of my favorite sites:
http://www.fourthamendment.com/blog/

A very good source of information for the citizen dedicated to knowing and enforcing their Constitutional rights.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 8:32:05 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: 556x45

It’s awkward to have dueling impressions. I support them when they defend against the legitimate criminal element, but I no longer trust them, as they increasingly represent stealth tax collectors, militarized governmental gangmembers and capricious thugs. I expect that most are still good, sensible people, but I’m not willing to roll the dice.


23 posted on 04/20/2011 8:33:31 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

If they start this nonsense in Ohio,I’ll make sure that I always have a large cup of Cola in the cupholder.If they ask for my phone,it’s going in the cup.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 9:09:06 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: G Larry
And your point?
25 posted on 04/20/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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26 posted on 04/20/2011 9:15:23 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

how about lawyer’s phones? client data and emails and txt msgs there.

how about judges?

how about reporter sources?

how about someone who is just anti-union?

police aready record license plates of groups they don’t like.


27 posted on 04/20/2011 9:19:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: yldstrk
I heard that Apple has a file on th iPhone that keeps a record of everwhere(lat.&long.) you've been. And you can't turn the function off.
28 posted on 04/20/2011 9:48:20 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: yldstrk
I heard that Apple has a file on th iPhone that keeps a record of everwhere(lat.&long.) you've been. And you can't turn the function off.
29 posted on 04/20/2011 9:48:30 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: catbertz

LOL, honest answer, very good! :) Thx! BTW I suspect them all and would never assume they’re OK.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 9:49:24 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: yldstrk

“Any search by consent is valid. So, you gotta say: “I do not consent to that search.””

That is false. Not knowing the cops are performing a search is not consent. Second, you do not need to tell them you are asserting your rights for those rights to be protected.


31 posted on 04/20/2011 10:32:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad
Failure to object to a search can imply consent. Unless you're a top notch criminal defense attorney the rule is to always object to any kind of search that you do not wish to consent to.
32 posted on 04/20/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: starlifter

My “point” is that I don’t believe the ACLU when they claim these devices are being used in traffic stops.

There are no citizen complaints to back it up.

I believe the ACLU doesn’t like the cops using these in on-going crimnal investigations and they’ve created this strawman to fight it.

This could be a great tool used on VICTIM’S phones, to learn recent contacts and whereabouts.


33 posted on 04/20/2011 11:28:32 AM PDT by G Larry
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34 posted on 04/20/2011 2:29:39 PM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: G Larry
There is this...thread with article from the guardian in the UK:

IPhone Keeps Record of Everywhere You Go

35 posted on 04/20/2011 2:31:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: G Larry

I am a citizen and consider this a complaint. Do you believe you are the property of the government?


36 posted on 04/20/2011 2:52:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Have some coffee and pay attention!

The only folks claiming the cops are doing this are the ACLU!

For some reason, I don’t believe them.
Perhaps it is because no individual citizen has complained that cops have used this device on their cell phone?

Get it?


37 posted on 04/20/2011 4:45:20 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes....that’s an Apple problem, not a cop violating your rights.


38 posted on 04/20/2011 4:47:41 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: CodeToad

I totally agree on “not knowing they are performing a search” but not on the rest.


39 posted on 04/20/2011 7:46:43 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I suppose that would depend on the Court and the roll of the dice and if someone can afford representation.


40 posted on 04/20/2011 7:49:55 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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