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Posted on 04/20/2011 3:49:41 AM PDT by Eurotwit
You should never feel shame for the acts of others. America and especially the American academy has more than enough anti-Semite bigots. I attribute it to envy. I grew up Catholic in New York City and was exposed Jews - including a number of Holocaust survivors - so early and often that it’s hard for me to take anti-Semites seriously. I must say that I never perceived the slightest hint of anti-Semitism from any Catholic clerics. For whatever reason, I am reflexively anti-anti-Semitic. I don’t mean this as a brag, it’s just a different form of bigotry. I hate anti-Semites.
No. The initial fight - which left the main German attack force on the bottom of the sea - gave the government and King the chance to relocate to London. From there it was possible to take control - legally - of the Norwegian merchant fleet which turned out to be one of the real major building blocks in the allied war effort.
That's a conundrum I ask about Poland. Poland could have taken the route of her southern neighbor, Slovakia, during the war. Basically allowing Poland to become a Nazi-Puppet state, yet still keeping something resembling a national identity. A lot of Poles would have been saved for sure. Of course the problem would have been still what the Nazis would have done with the Jews on Polish soil, don't know if that would have turned out any better for them, considering that Slovakia was more than happy to turn over her Jews to the Nazis.
Poles would never agree to such a thing.
Same thing in Norway.
I guess “surrender” was the Quisling policy. He demanded it.
As Churchill said, “Put two poles in a room and you will have an argument”
Stalin retorted: “Heck, put one pole in a room and he will start arguing with himself”.
Norwegians are a bit like that :-)
(Just reading a large Churchill biography)
It is true, that even the Endecja, before the war, were considered anti-semitic, but they hated the Germans, and the Russians, even more.
Nope. Wasn't an option. The Nazis never had the least idea of allowing any of the larger and potentially more powerful Slavic nations to maintain an identity.
Foremost among these were the Poles and Czechs. As the most advanced of the Slavic nations, the Nazis saw them as major potential threats. They were to be wiped out, eventually, and enslaved in the meantime.
The Russians too, simply due to their size.
The Polish leadership wasn't given the option, for the most part, of collaborating. They were just killed when caught.
The Soviets, for similar though not identical reasons, treated the Polish leadership much the same, as at Katyn.
Smaller and less powerful Slavic nations could be used as puppets, especially when they could be played off against a neighbor that was more of a problem. Slovaks against Czechs, Croats and Slovenes against Serbs, Ukrainians against Russians, etc.
That post makes a lot of sense now. It would have been interesting though to see how the Germans would have handled it, had Poland basically renounced their alliance with Britain and France,and agreed to return Danzig. What would have been the Germans’ Casus Belli, then?
And it’s true that in fact, Hitler was angry with happened at Munich, because he wanted war in Czechoslovakia, to give his army a valid test, but since he got way more than he expected from Chamberlain, he didn’t quite know what to do. He wasn’t going to make that same mistake with Poland.
The Jerusalem Post article says:
"Part of the motivation for this anti-Semitism is the influx into Norway in recent decades of masses of Muslimsfrom Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia and elsewhere. Multiculturalism has taught Norway’s cultural elite to take an uncritical, even obsequious, posture toward every aspect of Muslim culture and belief. When Muslim leaders rant against Israel and the Jews, the reflexive response of the multiculturalist elite is to join them in their rantings."
The article castigates native Norwegians as "anti-Semite" but fails to criticize the role of Jewish organizations supporting the Muslim invasion that the same article says partially motivates the anti-Semitism.
Discussion of WW2 events is irrelevant to the anti-Semitism resulting from multicultural solidarity with invading Muslims.
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