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Making sense of Norwegian anti-Semitism
Jerusalem Post ^ | 04/19/2011 21:46 | By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT

Posted on 04/20/2011 3:49:41 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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No words.

Just shame.

1 posted on 04/20/2011 3:49:43 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit; rmlew

I take issue with this though:

“With a few notable exceptions, Norwegians did not exactly cover themselves in glory during the Nazi occupation. Unlike their counterparts in Denmark, Norwegian gentiles made no major effort to protect their Jewish neighbors.”

Norway contributed more money and blood to the allied cause in the war than ever Denmark got even close to. Though, the antisemitism... It surely is an issue now. I had friends in college always saying when I did not want to give them my beer, “Don’t be a jew”.

I always said don’t be a Scot :P


2 posted on 04/20/2011 3:53:06 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Also want to add:

“Norwegian activists have encouraged boycotts of Israeli products.”

I have done consulting for retailing. Sales of Israeli goods have actually increases after these boycott attempts. Personally I have always bought a few extra bags of Jaffa oranges after such boycott calls.

Seems like I am not alone.


3 posted on 04/20/2011 3:55:56 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Sorry for “Fisking” the article:

But, this is obviously nonsense:

“Two years ago, supposedly in response to Israel’s actions against Hamas, Muslims rioted in downtown Oslo, making a large area of the city look like Beirut or Sarajevo at their most violent moments in modern history. The violence was out of control, the damage extensive. Yet almost everyone got off scot-free.”

Sarajevo, Beirut.

Not a single person got killed that day. Shees. I used to like Bawer, but statements like that does not add to his credibility.

Mind you I thought that day is the saddest day I have ever witnessed in Norway.

AND, the Norwegian media, society seems to do its best to put it in the “forget it ever happened” box.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 4:01:23 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

I would venture to guess that anti-Israel sentiment in Norway is directly related to the numbers of Islamic immigrants versus remaining native Norwegians


5 posted on 04/20/2011 4:10:40 AM PDT by blueplum
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Can you explain what is driving Norway’s Socialist Left Party – a member of the current governing coalition – to be amenable to using the Norwegian military to strike Israel?

The only useful thing in this whole ugly trend is that the Left's mask of "pacifism" and "antiwar" has been discarded.

6 posted on 04/20/2011 4:11:44 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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What is the explanation for the reticence among Norwegian Jews to flex their pro- Israel muscles, and at the same time assertively confront modern Norwegian anti-Semitism?
They are extremely few in number. And they fear for their children's future. But their silence is no solution. Their children have no future here unless they speak up.

Overall, the EU Jewish community has great influence. Do they support halting Muslim immigration to Europe?

7 posted on 04/20/2011 4:11:48 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

That’s the thing...

Most jewish organization are firmly behind the islamic invasion - branding everyone opposed to it as “nazi’s”.

So there you go.


8 posted on 04/20/2011 4:15:09 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I was going to add that our former FReeper Aloutte was very prominent among them.


9 posted on 04/20/2011 4:15:59 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: denydenydeny

Sad thing/good thing.

Is that the IDF would probably take out Norway in one day, with one hand tied behind their backs.

Did you read the story about the Norwegian Royal Guards (supposedly an elite unit) hid underneath the bed when the alarm went???


10 posted on 04/20/2011 4:18:07 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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Norway contributed more money and blood to the allied cause in the war than ever Denmark got even close to.

Quite true.

However, I believe the only aspect of Norwegian resistance the author is interested in is how effectively they protected their Jewish inhabitants. About 99% of Danish Jews survived, while about 1/3 of Norwegian Jews died in the Holocaust.

Denmark was a neutral country occupied by the Germans. Their government generally cooperated with the occupiers, while resisting in some areas such as that of protecting Jews.

Norway was a conquered country, and was treated very differently and more harshly by the Germans. The wartime Norwegians had less ability to resist in the subtle ways the Danes did.

11 posted on 04/20/2011 4:22:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I always buy Israeli products when I see them - especially after the boycotts are announced. Fortunately, in the USA, those boycotts are not really popular. YET.


12 posted on 04/20/2011 4:37:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You sort of raise an interesting question...

Would it have been better to surrender like the Danes?

More Norwegian and jewish lives would probably have been spared?


13 posted on 04/20/2011 4:40:38 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

The Danes never really got a chance to surrender. They were occupied almost before they knew they were invaded.

Given the difference in geography and topography the two countries were in very different situations.

The Norwegians (and Danes) had the huge advantage when occupied of being on the right side of the Nazi delusions about “race.”

Norwegians and Danes were the ideal Aryans per Nazi ideology, possibly more so than actual Germans, who admittedly had more admixture with inferior alien blood.

The Nazis wanted to convert and recruit the Norse, not exterminate them.


14 posted on 04/20/2011 4:46:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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My late FIL was Norwegian. His family owned a sailing school in Bergen. FIL was offered a math scholarship to Munich by the NAZIs, not only because he was very bright, but because he was Aryan. He refused.

The NAZIs brought the Bismarck to port at the family marina to be fitted. FIL and his brothers, one of whom had a career in the Merchant Marine, were supposed to help in the work. They gained access to the radio room and sent messages to the Brits detailing anything they knew. There were active partisans among the upper classes.

After the war, FIL emigrated, became an American citizen and only returned to Norway once, in the 1960s. Ironically, the girl he married was of German descent and her family were early Bund members who became very quite, to the point of denial, after the war.


15 posted on 04/20/2011 5:30:58 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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Ol'Ben there has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to ethnic diversity in Norway.

For him it's just Norwegian Lutheran farmers all the way down ~ like they were stacked turtles or something.

Norway is still in the midst of a thousand year long effort by the Continental Norse to wrest ownership of the Sapma from several different Sa'ami nations.

I doubt people who'd kick around the Sa'ami really care much about Jews either ~ and I wouldn't count on the greater part of the Norse being much concerned with the plight of the various Moslem immigrant groups.

They know a couple of good Fimbul winters and all the recent foreign immigrants will go back home and then it's just the Norse (with their three different languages) hacking away at the land rights of the Sa'ami.

16 posted on 04/20/2011 5:42:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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17 posted on 04/20/2011 5:44:06 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: reformedliberal

FIL?


18 posted on 04/20/2011 6:01:18 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Father-In-Law.

Standard Internet acronym.


19 posted on 04/20/2011 6:09:44 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Thanks.

I guess I am happy not knowing every Internet acronym.

Though it seems Americans have a special love for those acronyms.

I was doing some science at CU-Boulder. It was all acronyms all the time. Geek humour I guess :)

Have a good one.

Cheers.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 6:14:55 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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