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Why Obama Was NOT Born in Kenya
American Thinker ^ | 04/19/2011 | Don Wilkie

Posted on 04/19/2011 7:00:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: conservativesister

I’ve been following this daily since March, 2008. I don’t know who his father is, but I don’t think it is Barak Obama, Sr. Note the spelling of his name. You do not name your child after yourself and then spell the name differently. This is how Sr. spelled his name.

I think Ann went to Seattle to stay with relatives or friends and perhaps gave birth in Canada. Perhaps, she planned to give the child up for adoption, but changed her mind after the birth.

I think Obama, Sr. was befriended by the Dunhams in Hawaii due to political associations. I think he has been used as the father because there were some photos, etc. that could be used to promote the story.

Ann was definitely in Seattle, WA before her baby was a month old. She stayed there and attended college for quite some time. I don’t think she was ever married to Obama, Sr.

Canada and Seattle is where I would concentrate my search for evidence of Ann and her baby if I were able to engage in the investigation.


121 posted on 04/19/2011 9:11:58 AM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Gena Bukin

“So why does he continue to stonewall? Simple. It’s nothing more than a big F.U. to a group of people who didn’t vote for him in ‘08 and won’t vote for him in ‘12 regardless of what documents he coughs up. “

So let’s suppose he does that. What do you suppose is going to be the response in light of the fact that we have a decorated Lt. Col. Lakin sitting in Leavenworth because of his “big F.U.”?


122 posted on 04/19/2011 9:26:39 AM PDT by battletank
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To: yldstrk
“most likely” eh?

That’s convincing.

I wasn't there to see it.

And your theory about the big FU to the people that saw through him?

Kooky

What's kooky about this? I'd do the same thing. Would we expect a conservative president to acquiesce to every liberal demand? No, we'd expect such a president to tell them to get bent. That's what Obama is doing.

123 posted on 04/19/2011 9:27:04 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: mkboyce
What kind of a-shole tries to learn Russian in the 1960’s???

Well in the fifties this guy learned Russian


124 posted on 04/19/2011 9:27:47 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: The Hogwarts of stupid.)
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To: cookcounty

I’m not sure that there ever was an official name change. I think that officially, he is still Barry Soetoro, maybe originally, named Barry Duncan. It would have just made him look so foolish if it came out that Obama made up the name, himself and added even added the “Hussein” middle name to re-inforce his Islamic heritage.

Can you imagine Obama winning the election if it came out that he had been a follower of Black Islam during the eighties, just like Cassius Clay, Lou Alcinder and a host of others? It would have made him look like a radical nut case, like Farrakhan.


125 posted on 04/19/2011 9:30:57 AM PDT by Eva
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To: mkboyce
Then your original point was poorly made, since we know their specific ideology, but you made a generalization. As far as Chinese being a specific language goes, I could be more concise, but equally feeble as your reply and say:

You know what I meant.

126 posted on 04/19/2011 9:37:00 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I have a guess ... I gave a supposition ... I have an opinion ... Saaaaaaaaay -- I have a idea: why don't we look at the Birth Certificate????

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

It it beyond dispute that Obama is hiding his birth certificate. Not even the most liberal journalist can deny that and nobody can be ridiculed for claiming that. More importantly, the American voter can easily embrace that fact.

It is extremely easy to paint the enablers of Obama's deceit .... for whatever reason Obama wants to deceive .... as "HIDERS" .

The problem with the so-called "Birther" issue is that the "Born in Kenya" theory puts all it's eggs into one, single theory in regards to WHY Obama is hiding the birth certificate and that just happens to be a theory that 75% of American voters simply do not buy and consider "tinfoil hat" stuff.

Hypothetical example:

Candidate John Edwards was caught secretly sending money to a woman. Why?

"She is a KGB agent like Ana Chapman and he is funding a KGB spy ring to help his KGB masters. John Edwards is guilty of treason and America needs to know."

Four months later: "Seventy five percent of America is not buying the KGB theory and the liberal press is having a field day ridiculing us. Could there be another reason for the behavior?"

"NO! The woman is a KGB agent."

"Maybe she is his mistress and he is paying her off?"

"NO! SHE IS A KGB AGENT!"

"She recently gave birth. Maybe John Edwards is paying her because that is his illegitimate child."

"NO! NO! NO! SHE IS A KGB AGENT AND HE IS A TRAITOR!"

"Look, 75% of the American voters simply do not buy the KGB theory."

"KGB! KGB! KGB! TRAITOR! TRAITOR! TRAITOR!"

That's not the way to win an election, folks.

The discussion get turned 180 degrees by the liberal media from "John Edwards is a slimebag" to "John Edward's opponents are a bunch of tinfoil hat kooks" and 75% of all American voters ignore the slimebag and focus on the tinfoil hats.

Our goal should be to ensure that Obama is NOT reelected in 2012. That goal will be hurt by tryinghe 75% of all voters that want no part of it.

In my opinion, the "Born in Kenya" theory has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese factory. More importantly, 75% of all American voters simply ain't gonna buy it and beating them over the head with it only helps Obama paint the oppositions as obsessed kooks.

In my opinion, what is Obama hiding?

1.) That his birth was officially registered as "illegitimate" and his mother was listed as "Single". (Obama, Sr. was already married and polygamy is illegal in the U.S. Nobody has ever seen the marriage license or divorce decree of Obama, Sr. and Staley Ann Dunham.)

2.) That Obama, as an illegitimate child, was born with the name of Barry Dunham. Obama is therefore hiding a "white" surname given at birth that blows the entire "Dreams of my Father" hype out of the water.

Is that highly embarrassing?

You betcha.

What have Obama's lawyers specifically argued in Court when they have defended Obama's legal right to keep the documents hidden?

They have argued that the release would be "embarrassing" and the Courts have agreed.

Does Obama have an iron-clad legal right to refuse to release "embarrasing" information?

Yes.

Does Obama have an iron-clad legal right to cover up an illegal act such as ineligibility for the office of POTUS?

No.

Thus the Court have dismissed arguments that Obama is ineligible for office but, at the same time, have told America that it has no more right to see his birth certificate than America has a right to see your medical record.

Switching the debate from "Birther" to "HIDERS", as ClearCase_guy has done, is a winning strategy.

It switches the debate 180 degrees from "tinfoil hat kooks" to "What are you hiding and why are you hiding it?"

The continued insistence on forcing the cod liver oil of the "Born in Kenya" theory down the unwilling throats of 75% of all voters will bring nothing more than continued ridicule which does absolutely nothing but help Obama get reelected.

127 posted on 04/19/2011 9:38:35 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: CaptainK

“Is there any documentation that she took him along to Seattle? Did she have a babysitter, since I doubt infants were allowed in class back than.”

Well, no babysitter, midwife, neighbor or other human has come forward and said they remember anything about infant Odumbass in Hawaii or Seattle.

Maybe he is a real “alien” as opposed to just being illegal! We should also demand his medical records just in case his blood is green.


128 posted on 04/19/2011 9:44:58 AM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: wintertime
Dear Mr. Wilkie, Wow! That's a lot of words in that article. It likely took you a fair amount of time to write it. So?......Where's the birth certificate? Why doesn't Obama just release it?

See Post 127.

Is Obama hiding something?

You betcha!

Is putting all your eggs in the "Born in Kenya" basket a bad idea?

Does a former Drill Sergeant make a terrible therapist?

129 posted on 04/19/2011 9:52:15 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: SeekAndFind
"For the birth to have taken place in Kenya, Ann would have been very pregnant and very near her delivery date when the trip was made..."

While I doubt Obama was born in Kenya, what is the writer's evidence for the above statement?

The writer states earlier that Stanley Ann's whereabouts are unknown, following her marriage to Obama Sr in Hawaii in Febr 1961.

If this is true, why does the writer assume a hypothetical trip to Kenya would have to have taken place "very near her delivery date" ?

Why could not the trip have taken place when she was, say, 6 months pregnant in mid-May 1961?

(I tried re-reading the article to see if I missed some part of the writer's reasoning, but still couldn't find it. If anybody has figured this out, please let me know. )

130 posted on 04/19/2011 10:09:07 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: SeekAndFind
I too think it's unlikely that Barry was born in Kenya. (Grandma misunderstood the question.)
I think the most probable scenario is that his long form BC is amended to reflect adoption by Lolo Soetoro, and names him Barry Soetoro. That's what's on file. (The so-called COLB is a fabrication.) Revelation of the long form would likely lead to further disclosures about use of Indonesian citizenship to obtain student benefits, etc., into his adult years. Never a legal name change to Obama. Falsehoods galore. Very embarrassing.

131 posted on 04/19/2011 10:10:47 AM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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To: jersey117
...that is the AP article that clearly states that he was born there.

Has that article disappeared down the memory hole yet?

132 posted on 04/19/2011 10:19:35 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: tsowellfan
"The IRS examiner said the only thing Obama really ever knew how to do well was lie and lied his way all the way from the streets of NY to the Senate and finally the presidency without ever having to show any documents."

Makes that guy from "Catch Me If You Can" look like a piker.

133 posted on 04/19/2011 10:34:19 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps the focus should be more general? Let's get Obama's past on record. How did he do in college? Release the high school and college transcripts.

I'd like to see Sarah Palin's transcripts (and I know they won't be perfect since she was paying her own way), and DeMint's if he runs, and Bachmann's, and those of any RINO (yeah, even Romney and the Huckster). Make a production of the fact that releasing records on their past is an important part of disclosure and understanding the whole person. Release a full, long-form birth certificate and a full college transcript on every candidate except Obama, and there will be more pressure to comply with the legitimate request to release the transcripts. That leaves an obvious hole if Obama refuses to release his transcripts, and even if he releases them but doesn't release the long-form bc.

[Note: I'm posting this on several threads because I think this tactic may make a difference in saving America and I want to hear feedback.]

134 posted on 04/19/2011 10:47:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: yldstrk

Since I’ve never seen evidence that she was in Kenya I will have to stick with my instincts. She was certainly more “liberated” than I was at that age but when I was 17 there would have been no way I would have left my mommy that close to birth! I’ve seen no real proof that Stanley Ann & Sr ever really lived together as a happily married couple. I suspect it was arranged just to give the baby a name, so no reason for her to leave her comfortable life.Just sayin’.......


135 posted on 04/19/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: Polybius
That his birth was officially registered as "illegitimate" and his mother was listed as "Single". (Obama, Sr. was already married and polygamy is illegal in the U.S.)

It would be embarrassing if his parents weren't legally married, but he could actually garner a good bit of sympathy from that admission. After all, it's already common knowledge that his mother was pregnant out of wedlock. The bigamy would mean they couldn't have legally married if they wanted to. He could just say he's been protecting his family's reputation.

I can't help thinking there's more to it than just the BC and what it contains. IMHO, it has to do with what it leads to: The Indonesian angle, college, etc.

Bottom line: The people have a right to know.

136 posted on 04/19/2011 11:05:04 AM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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To: jersey117

NO matter where he was spawned, NObama is still the offspring of a man who was NOT a US Citizen at the time of Barry’s birth.

Therefore, Barry is not a NATURAL BORN citizen of the USA & therefore is NOT eligible to be President of the USA.


137 posted on 04/19/2011 11:14:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Genoa
It would be embarrassing if his parents weren't legally married, but he could actually garner a good bit of sympathy from that admission. After all, it's already common knowledge that his mother was pregnant out of wedlock. The bigamy would mean they couldn't have legally married if they wanted to. He could just say he's been protecting his family's reputation.

If it turns out that there's something like this -- embarrassing to the family but in no way relevant to Obama's legal qualifications to be President -- finally letting some Birther drag it into the daylight will be an absolutely devastating blow to Obama's opponents (who will be publicly pilloried as not only kooks, but mean-spirited assailants on an innocent family).

138 posted on 04/19/2011 11:57:20 AM PDT by technonerd
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To: ebysan

Thanks!


139 posted on 04/19/2011 12:04:31 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: ridesthemiles
I wonder what effect illegitimacy would have on the legal precedents for natural born citizenship deriving from both parents.

140 posted on 04/19/2011 12:35:52 PM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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