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"Taliban call British troops donkeys"
PressTV ^ | Mon Apr 18, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 04/19/2011 2:15:51 AM PDT by Cardhu

Britain risks losing the war in Afghanistan because commanders are more concerned with protecting soldiers than defeating the Taliban, a senior army officer has warned.

The officer lashed out at the British strategy in southern province of Helmand, where the UK troops are stationed as part of the NATO-led operation in Afghanistan. The senior army officer said soldiers are now laden with equipment they are incapable of launching effective attacks against insurgents.

According to anonymous officer, the Taliban have dubbed British troops "donkeys" who move in a tactical "waddle" because they now carry an average weight of 110lbs worth of equipment into battle.

The consequences of the strategy, he says, is that "our infantry find it almost impossible to close with the enemy because the bad guys are twice as mobile".

The officer claims that by the end of a routine four hour patrol, soldiers struggle to make basic tactical judgements because they are physically and mentally exhausted.

"We're getting to a point where we are losing as many men making mistakes because they are exhausted from carrying armor (and the things that go with it) than are saved by it," he warns.

Britain's military's command structure in Afghanistan also comes in for criticism and is described as a "bloated over complex system that sucks the life out of operations" and where "decision and action get lost in Chinese whispers and Chinese parliaments that turn most of operational staff 'work' into operational staff waste".


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; britishsoldiers; taliban
We used to call them Irish parliaments but perhaps the PC times have changed that.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 2:15:58 AM PDT by Cardhu
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2 posted on 04/19/2011 2:19:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: bmwcyle

LOL - Armies the world over are all the same filled with the rejects from the other Services.

Now I am in trouble...


3 posted on 04/19/2011 2:23:33 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: bmwcyle

Not a better response than that image. LOL!

Lets bet the grunts are whining like this officer. Then again, maybe this officer is taking a cue from McCrystal.


4 posted on 04/19/2011 2:35:37 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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Lets bet the grunts are whining like this officer.

Lets bet the grunts aren't whining . . .

5 posted on 04/19/2011 2:37:09 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: Cardhu

The US won the World War because of individual soldiers’initiative and cleverness. The US lost Vietnam because too many decisions were made remotely, including the decision to capitulate. This war will not end happily for our young men, women, transgenders, gays and lesbians. Our men are weighed down with cameras and lawyers.


6 posted on 04/19/2011 3:03:11 AM PDT by steve8714 (Firing Federal Bureaucrats would have a 100,000x beneficial effect on the deficit, maybe more.)
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I’m not so sure that the Wehrmacht, man for man, wasn’t better than the American military. The U.S. success in World War II required enormous sacrifice and incredible initiative on the part of individual servicemen, at all levels. At the end of the day, however, the U.S. simply had more heavy weapons, including aircraft and ships, than our enemies could muster. Admittedly, they would have been worthless without courageous human beings to employ them.

We lost in Vietnam because we fought aimlessly and indecisively and because the enemy propaganda had control of our media.


7 posted on 04/19/2011 3:17:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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So lighten them up, dump the gear in base and just carry water, ammo, some of those yummy mummified-zombie protein bars, and let one stiff carry the med packs.

Should be some way to lighten up. The VC did -- they only carried 30-40 rounds or so plus water.

8 posted on 04/19/2011 3:22:06 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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Lets bet the grunts aren't whining . . .

I've had a few career Army guys tell me that when the soldiers are complaining, it means they're happy soldiers. ;-)

9 posted on 04/19/2011 3:24:48 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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That's Hate speech. Something should be done.
10 posted on 04/19/2011 3:30:49 AM PDT by Shqipo (I am the unofficial originator of the Mega-Bump! Only use judiciously.)
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11 posted on 04/19/2011 3:37:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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Au contaraire, the Taliban love their donkeys.


12 posted on 04/19/2011 3:38:47 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: mazda77

All troops gripe...even the good ones do. Doesn’t mean they are bad, just means they gripe...:)


13 posted on 04/19/2011 3:40:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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The taliban call the Brits donkeys.
...and the Brits call the taliban corpses.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 4:19:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: Cardhu

I thought they learned all about that on Bunker Hill.
They made it on the 3rd try, sans packs—albiet after the Rebels WERE OUT OF AMMO.


15 posted on 04/19/2011 4:34:40 AM PDT by Flintlock
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Here is the way I see it. Nobody wants to lose troops. However, I’m guessing since the COIN strategy prevents troops from actually killing the enemy they load them down with more armor to hopefully stop the bullets while they help win hearts and minds.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 4:42:22 AM PDT by panthermom (Proud Mom of an Infantry Soldier)
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[it means they’re happy soldiers.]

True, when they aren’t complaning, it’s time to start worrying.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 4:54:50 AM PDT by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: Cardhu
Oh my, my, my"Taliban call British troops donkeys"

If they called them goats or sheep that would be one dipped dunked DADT moment.Oi mate they do it with donkeys too? I ain't your Bacha BaziBoy curious George

18 posted on 04/19/2011 6:09:47 AM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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When you are fighting to not lose the war instead of fighting to win the war, then you have already lost. Make the generals and civilians wear 110 pounds of equipment all the time, and things would quickly change.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 8:58:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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