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1 posted on 04/17/2011 6:08:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 04/17/2011 6:12:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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So how will you get some revenues out of ‘em? Send ‘em to the rendering plants and pet food shelves for government employees to buy, perhaps?


3 posted on 04/17/2011 6:13:09 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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Oh...forgot. Government employees, bigger revenues in, littler taxes out.


4 posted on 04/17/2011 6:14:10 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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BTTT


5 posted on 04/17/2011 6:15:56 PM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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It worked. I’m incensed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 04/17/2011 6:16:37 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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We do not pay any income taxes, but when we purchas anything we pay taxes on that. Our income is va & ss disabality, both are non taxable.


7 posted on 04/17/2011 6:17:48 PM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25)
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Hey, you can have a moderately high income, go blind, encounter some absolutely incredible costs for making sure you get food, get cooked food, find your bed, pay your bills, do stuff of any kind ~ and end up with enough medical deductibles to not pay taxes.

Didn't happen to me thankfully, but it's been an incredible year ~ never thought my deductible medical costs would be as high as they are! I'd normally done my taxes late in the previous year then make a calculated decision about paying any excess early or late depending on the adantage.

This year I couldn't even read the IRS booklets until late February and there was all sorts of new stuff that I still haven't sorted out in my mind. Following the advice of other blind folks I've asked IRS some specific questions ~ in the meantime going ahead and filing.

So, who are the blind? Well, the deal is that your best vision in your best eye can't be better than 20/200 even corrected ~ and I was there for most of a year. Then, they cut off the medications and my best actually got down to 20/15 ~ and even my worst, under my tightest control, and moving my eye back and forth, I can pass a driving test ~ no doubt you all want me on the road eh!

Bwahahahahaha

The Internet lets me blow the words up to where it's better than any lens I can buy ~ and is my prosthetic letting me into the real world beyond the darkened living room.

Looking over stories on the net it looks like there are hundreds of thousands of folks with decent incomes who turn up blind ~ permanently ~ every year ~ and even they don't stop paying taxes ~ this nation taxes blind folks.

The deal seems to be to encourage those with impaired vision to get hired help.

Most interesting ~ not the policy I thought it was, but what else could it be?

I'm pretty sure Hannity is targeting blind people in his rants about people not paying income tax.

He's building up a very large supply of negative kharma. Wouldn't get too close to him just in case he gets some early blowback.

8 posted on 04/17/2011 6:22:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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As long as the left wants to pretend that Social Security is insurance and not a Ponzi scheme/welfare program, they have a hard time talking their way around this fact.

In reality, payroll taxes are exactly the same thing as income taxes; money taken from the the individual that disappears into a black hole, never to be seen again. But to admit this obvious fact, in defense of those paying no income taxes, is to admit that a good portion of their world view is fantasy or fraud.

9 posted on 04/17/2011 6:24:10 PM PDT by Minn
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It’s ok, I paid enough for 3 or so households this year...


13 posted on 04/17/2011 6:35:30 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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I don’t buy this argument that people are being simply demonized because “they don’t pay any income taxes”.

So they pay Social Security taxes and a few other things. So do I. And so do many, many other people.

But I pay a boatload of INCOME tax beyond SS and other such things, while they do not. How does that make it anything other than redistribution?


15 posted on 04/17/2011 6:41:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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(Very high-income households can fall into the non-payer group if they get their income from tax-exempt bonds or overseas sources for which they get foreign tax credits)

I can’t believe they mention the foreign tax credits as if it’s a loophole! For the record, I don’t get any of my income that way. However, the US is one of the few countries that taxes worldwide income. If a citizen from another country works in the US, that person only pays US taxes. If an American citizen works overseas, they get taxed by the IRS anyway, net of the taxes they paid overseas (there might be a certain amount shielded from income as well). If they change that “loophole”, and Americans can’t get away from the taxman even if they leave the country, these citizens will have to make a decision as to whether the US citizenship is even worth it. The IRS would then get nothing.


16 posted on 04/17/2011 6:46:17 PM PDT by winner3000
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Sounds to me like the W4s were properly filed.


17 posted on 04/17/2011 6:50:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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RE “ For tax year 2010, roughly 45% of households, or about 69 million, will end up owing nothing in federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. Some in that group will even end up getting paid money from the federal government. That does not mean such households end up paying no taxes whatsoever. For instance, those in the group still pay other taxes such as state and local income taxes, as well as property and sales taxes.
And the group doesn't necessarily get off scot-free when it comes to payroll taxes — which support Social Security and Medicare. More than two-thirds — or 49 million of the 69 million households — pay payroll tax. Of those, 34 million end up paying more in payroll taxes than they get back on their federal return. The other 15 million pay payroll tax but they get enough refundable credits to offset what they paid.

A big problem. These people are not overtaxed, although they may think so.

Democrats/Socialists will always be able to go to these voters and say: “Republican’s plan will make you pay more” when talking about proposed budget cuts like Medicare. This group will always (generally) see the wisdom of ‘tax increases on the rich’.

And they are still 'entitled' to Medicare and Social Security.

18 posted on 04/17/2011 6:54:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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And, by the way, my disagreement was not with you personally, since I do think it is fair to keep in mind that people who don’t pay any Federal Income Tax do pay sales tax and other such taxes.

The problem is, income tax is obviously the major chunk of money going to the federal government. Everyone needs to pay, because as many people have pointed out, when people are free of that burden of having to pay anything, the exercise of voting for people who will increase taxes on the “other” people to pay for benefits “they” get takes on a completely different dynamic, even IF those people DO pay some kind of taxes.


19 posted on 04/17/2011 7:02:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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So 45% have no skin in the game.


20 posted on 04/17/2011 7:10:33 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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I have seen and heard these arguments before. They’re ludicrous.

Saying, “Hey — the 47% non-taxpaying statistic is both mean-spirited and misleading. Those people pay sales tax.”

But we were talking about income tax.

Their argument is a bit like saying, “Most people don’t buy newspapers any more; but they do use toilet paper.”


22 posted on 04/17/2011 7:17:00 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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Wanna fix the deficit with taxes?

Make EVERYONE pay some income tax.

We should have a basement level of income tax if we have an income tax at all. 5% so they can do their patriotic duty.

Even better, a "sales tax" AND no income tax.

Everyone must pay if anyone does.

Otherwise we will eventually have chaos and war.

24 posted on 04/17/2011 7:26:34 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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That number would be reduced considerably by passing the Fair Tax Act(HR25/S13). The Fair Tax will replace all federal income taxes with a national sales tax and abolish the IRS!


25 posted on 04/17/2011 7:29:17 PM PDT by Defend Liberty
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Contrary to what many assume, membership in the group isn't restricted to the poor.

It's true that the vast majority of the 69 million households make less than $50,000 -- with very heavy representation among households making less than $30,000.


Oh, I see. Because it's not 100.0%, we should just ignore the fact that 63,200,000 lower-income filers either pay no income tax or get free money from the government. Typical CNN, never missing a chance to spew the Hard Left's talking points.
29 posted on 04/17/2011 7:39:35 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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Modify the AMT so that everyone has to pay at least the minimum tax rate.


31 posted on 04/17/2011 7:40:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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