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To: SeekAndFind
Show me a list of chemicals. From what I have read, they use a binder in ice-cream Carrageenan, sand, salt, sodium phosphate ( the stuff in TSP to clean walls ? ) and some other acids. ok, what are the other 655 ingredients? IMHO this is a watermelon ( green on the outside, red on the inside ) tempest in a teapot....
4 posted on 04/17/2011 6:31:07 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

I believe the issue is their use of chromates for corrosion and microbiological organism control. We stopped using chromates in the nuclear power industry because of their toxicity.

1. The fracking chemicals are pumped many thousands of feet below the water table. The only connection to the water table is through leaks in the bore hole. Better quality bore holes are possible.

2. There are less toxic substitutes for chromates. It means a seperate chemical for corrosion control and for microbe control.

This finding isn’t the end of fracking. It just means an adjustment in the practices


11 posted on 04/17/2011 6:45:39 AM PDT by kidd
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To: neverdem; narses; MHGinTN; CholeraJoe; sionnsar; steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

The oil (mostly natural gas nowdays) fields are being fracked at 8,000 - 15,000 feet down.

Water wells? 200 feet to 800 feet. A few below 1000, but not many. Rural (single family private) wells - that are the ONLY ones actually above the fracked area - are almost never even that deep.

This is pure enviro-mental hype. Played out in Obama’s ABBCNNBCBS media.


13 posted on 04/17/2011 6:46:33 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: taildragger
List of chemicals? Here you go. Read the Halliburton information and draw your own conclusions:
  1. Fracking chemicals registry launches(FR Post)
  2. FracFocus - Chemical Disclosure Registry
  3. Halliburton "Fluids Disclosure"

24 posted on 04/17/2011 7:25:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: taildragger; epithermal; thackney
Show me a list of chemicals

State agencies have released this information. For example, in New York State, it was a scientific and economic development agency (NYSERDA), not the regulatory agency, that commissioned reports from various sources to support the Generic Environmental Impact Statement. For water-related issues, URS Corporation provided the research (PDF). Note that URS Corporation is a consultant to drilling companies, so any bias would be pro-drilling. The draft GEIS is here.

Other states (e.g., Pennsylvania) have looked at MSDSs used by the drilling sites, although this list had to be pared down because non-downhole chemicals still have MSDSs. Still, many are carcinogens...and no matter how many "food" ingredients you put into it, it doesn't mean that the carcinogens in it will suddenly be "overruled" by all the gummi bears you included.

I know that the Democrats of these states are hoping that shale gas will get them out of their irresponsible budget messes, but even conservative geologists are starting to reverse their support as more information comes out.

Remember, Halliburton even admitted only a couple of years ago that they were still using diesel fuel to frack, despite promises given years earlier that they wouldn't do that anymore. Fortunately, they seem to be developing improvements, such as the CleanStim system (h/t epithermal).

Note: I have personal and professional interests that would be promoted by the increased exploitation of shale gas. But I am also a man of integrity.

70 posted on 04/17/2011 10:46:01 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: taildragger
RE: Show me a list of chemicals.

(Extracted from http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/materials_minerals_pdf/ogdsgeischap5.pdf)

CAS Number Chemical Constituent
2634-33-5 1,2 Benzisothiazolin-2-one / 1,2-benzisothiazolin-3-one
95-63-6 1,2,4 trimethylbenzene
123-91-1 1,4-Dioxane
3452-07-1 1-eicosene
629-73-2 1-hexadecene
112-88-9 1-octadecene
1120-36-1 1-tetradecene
10222-01-2 2,2 Dibromo-3-nitrilopropionamide, a biocide
27776-21-2 2,2'-azobis-{2-(imidazlin-2-yl)propane}-dihydrochloride
73003-80-2 2,2-Dobromomalonamide
15214-89-8 2-Acrylamido-2-methylpropane sulphonic acid sodium salt polymer
46830-22-2 2-acryloyloxyethyl(benzyl)dimethylammonium chloride
52-51-7 2-Bromo-2-nitro-1,3-propanediol
111-76-2 2-Butoxy ethanol
1113-55-9 2-Dibromo-3-Nitriloprionamide (2-Monobromo-3-nitriilopropionamide)
104-76-7 2-Ethyl Hexanol
67-63-0 2-Propanol / Isopropyl Alcohol / Isopropanol / Propan-2-ol
26062-79-3 2-Propen-1-aminium, N,N-dimethyl-N-2-propenyl-chloride, homopolymer
9003-03-6 2-propenoic acid, homopolymer, ammonium salt
25987-30-8 2-Propenoic acid, polymer with 2 p-propenamide, sodium salt / Copolymer of acrylamide and sodium acrylate
71050-62-9 2-Propenoic acid, polymer with sodium phosphinate (1:1)
66019-18-9 2-propenoic acid, telomer with sodium hydrogen sulfite
107-19-7 2-Propyn-1-ol / Propargyl alcohol
51229-78-8 3,5,7-Triaza-1-azoniatricyclo[3.3.1.13,7]decane, 1-(3-chloro-2-propenyl)-chloride,
115-19-5 3-methyl-1-butyn-3-ol
127087-87-0 4-Nonylphenol Polyethylene Glycol Ether Branched / Nonylphenol ethoxylated / Oxyalkylated Phenol
64-19-7 Acetic acid
68442-62-6 Acetic acid, hydroxy-, reaction products with triethanolamine
108-24-7 Acetic Anhydride
67-64-1 Acetone
79-06-1 Acrylamide

71 posted on 04/17/2011 10:54:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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