‘Stop With the Damn Birth Certificate!’ Beck Delivers Strong Message to Birthers

The Blaze ^ | 04/14/2011 | Jonathon M. Seidl

[Rational Thought]

“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.

“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”

“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”

[itsahoot]

Glenn Beck is dead wrong on this issue, but I challenge you to discredit his assessment of the problems we face. No one else has even mentioned the word Communist in describing the Communist infested white house.

[waterhill]

WaterOilSteamGas??? ( if so, how many lbs.???

or, water oil Socialism gas...??? Mix

or, waste oil, Socialism/ Gas...

[Tennessee Nana]

“Baby Dunham”

or

“Male Baby Dunham”

[CodeToad]

BOR has called everything he thinks a fact. Everything. The guy is his own best cheerleader.

[nickcarraway]

The media is rejoicing and promoting the BC issue. It has taken Obama’s failure off the front page. It has taken Obama’s multiple wars of the front page. If this keeps up, his approval rating will shoot up.

[sanjuanbob]

Thought provoking.

[Scanian]

I would hazard a guess that it is Roberts among the 4 conservatives who is blocking hearing eligibility cases.

He swore the bugger in, after all.

And I have to believe he knew all the suspicions.

[rxsid]

"“Both mommy and daddy must be citizens of the United States for their offspring to qualify as a Natural Born Citizen. “

The court in Alkeny disagrees with your opinion.

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That state of Indiana case?

Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents

OK. Let's have a look at this case from a state court in Indiana...

1. What does the "language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4" say?

Here's what it says:

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

What does that have to do with the NBC requirement for POTUS which is found in Clause 5?

2. Regarding this: "the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark", the state court of Indiana had stated this in the previous paragraph:

The Court held that Mr. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen [Edit: "citizen", but NOT a "natural born citizen"] of the United States “at the time of his birth.” 14

What does footnote 14 say?

We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a “natural born Citizen” using the Constitution's Article II language is immaterial.

It's "immaterial" according to this ridiculous state court ruling.

So, this decision by the state court in Indiana stated the wrong Constitutional clause from where the actual requirement comes from AND they say they base their decision on WKA which found that a child born in country to non citizen parents (who were perminatly domiciled here by the way, Barry's father was a temporary visitor) was a "citizen" (they did NOT find him NBC)...and they admit it...yet they someone find Barry NBC?

That, so called, "decision" is an embarrassment to the state of Indiana...and I say that with all due respect to any clear thinking Hoosier's out there.

Furthermore, Chief Justice Marshall, Chief Justice Waite, Justice Story and the House of Representatives that debated the issue of citizenship leading to the 14th Amendment (in particular framer Bingham) all agree that a child born in this country's sovereign territory, to parentS who owe no allegiance to a foreign country, are "natural born Citizen(s)."

[Scanian]

Anybody who would accept that piece of crap is begging for fraud to happen.

I am 62 and had to produce an original long form birth certificate in order to renew my drivers license the other day.

Are we being pickier about motorists than about presidents?

[agooga]

I agree that he was almost certainly born in Hawaii, and I am not a birther by any means. Obama has the right to say “Screw you, I ain’t showing you jack.” But ALL THAT DOES is fan these ludicrous flames. I am intellectually curious about what he doesn’t want the public to know— but that’s the end of it.

[WOSG]

See post #213. The truth is out there. He was born in Honolulu.
Now, go ahead and tell me where *else* he was supposed to be born and prove *that*.

[little jeremiah]

Actually, until his actual documents are brought into a court of law, there is no teling who his mother and father were, where or when he was born.

Read this thread, extremely interesting stuff on it.

He is lying about a lot more than just where he was born.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?q=1&;page=1

[nickcarraway]

Obama has been president for over 2 years. Now the onus is one someone to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii. Where is the proof. The Clinton’s couldn’t find any proof. Republicans are incompetent sissies at oppo research compared to the Clintons. If the Clintons couldn’t find it, it’s hard to believe some amateur will. To date, there is no proof that Trump has sent investigators to HI.

[Yaelle]

People who do not get it -- not you, Faucetman, your post was brilliant -- need to meet this guy.

He says he got his money legally, from making a simple bank withdrawal. He has a receipt, too, which is hard to read, low ink, dates a little weird, doesn't look like the other receipts from that bank.

He's been carrying around that money for 3 years now, so it's really his, isn't it? I mean, he HAS it, does he not? Some people think he might have robbed that bank, but it's really too late. Why make a fuss, after all that time? He's ready to go in and make another withdrawal, and that's OK too. He's probably a good guy. He would never lie to us.

[WOSG]

“the newspaper announcements from Aug 1961 in honolulu announcing his birth back it up”

“They don’t announce “his” birth. The newspaper ads say a baby *boy* was born.”

Yeah, that’s what they do when they get info from the public health dept. (which got info from hospitals). It’s just a boy, born to Barack Obama’s parents. So it’s him who was born in those newspaper announcements.

[Scanian]

Being aq corporate tool makes lots of sense. For tools.

Everything about Beck says “I’m going to get it while the getting is good.”

Thus the books one after the other, the tours with O’Reilly, radio and TV at the same time. All about money and feathering his nest-—fast.

[nickcarraway]

Are you saying he was actually a girl?

[WOSG]

“Us Birthers? We are more interested in winning back our Country than winning an election.”

How does pushing a bogus story about Obama not being born in Honolulu - when he was - help take back anything, except insert stupidity into the conservative cause?

[Scanian]

I hear he scored 20,000,000 on that.

As in $20,000,000 Saudi dollars.

[nickcarraway]

He's been carrying around that money for 3 years now, so it's really his, isn't it?

According to the law, it has to be proved in court (civil and/or criminal) that the money isn't his? Do you dispute that?