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Arizona Senate passes Obama birther bill after boost from Donald Trump
Biz Journals ^ | 04/13/2011 | Mike Sunnucks

Posted on 04/13/2011 12:39:01 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

The Arizona Senate approved the so-called ‘birther’ bill requiring 2012 presidential candidates to prove they were born in the U.S. and are thus eligible to run for president.

The measure, House Bill 2177, is aimed at President Barack Obama and those on the political right who want him to produce a birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii and not Kenya, where his father if from.

The Arizona Legislature passed the bill 20-8 on a party-line vote in the State Senate with Republicans backing and Democrats opposing.

The measure includes some changes that allow for other documents beside birth certificates to be produced by presidential contenders. It now goes back to the Arizona House of Representatives for another vote. The House previously approved the birther bill without new Senate changes.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; az; birthcertificate; certifigate; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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To: chris haney

He could always skip Arizona.


41 posted on 04/13/2011 12:55:18 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: cinciella

i think it will only take one state. If Obama fails to produce the required certificate for AZ - he is done.

hoping this gets signed into law....


42 posted on 04/13/2011 12:55:38 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Godebert
Did they even mention ‘natural born Citizen’ one time in this bill?

Yes. Right in the beginning. The whole thing seems solid.

Also gives individual citizens of Arizona standing to challenge eligibility, which is what we all wanted, but never really asked for.

43 posted on 04/13/2011 12:55:46 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Smokeyblue

What other documents?


44 posted on 04/13/2011 12:57:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cinciella

Well if he thinks he can win Arizona and wants their electoral votes, he will have to produce something. My guess is this, the CIA is working 24-7 to make the right document for our boy to present to the State of Arizona.


45 posted on 04/13/2011 12:59:07 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: C210N

“...other documents to be produced in place....”?


46 posted on 04/13/2011 12:59:19 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Triple

I’d like to see Texas, Florida, and at least one other key swing vote state follow Arizona’s lead. That would make sure that Obama is eliminated from any possiblity of running for POTUS in 2012.


47 posted on 04/13/2011 1:00:37 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: C210N

I will anxiously await a story regarding passage of this bill on tonight’s evening news. (hahahahaha) like that would ever happen.


48 posted on 04/13/2011 1:00:43 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Mr. Wright

I don’t think CIA is too fond of the Malicious Moslem after he (and Pelosi) tried to prosecute CIA interrogators and lawyers.


49 posted on 04/13/2011 1:01:43 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: NCC-1701

Ohio would be a great one to pass such a bill - along with Michigan or Indiana -


50 posted on 04/13/2011 1:01:55 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: LyinLibs

Oherpes has very few friends remaining.


51 posted on 04/13/2011 1:02:20 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: bill1952
The measure includes some changes that allow for other documents beside birth certificates to be produced by presidential contenders

No, it doesn't. It specifically requires a BC (with a place of birth). What it allows is the AZ SoS to disallow a candidate on the ballot if the SoS doesn't believe that the proof of the documents don't prove eligibility (ie he believes they're forged).

52 posted on 04/13/2011 1:03:44 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Smokeyblue

Toothless.


53 posted on 04/13/2011 1:08:40 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: NCC-1701

agreed cpt kirk

I also think he is in a world of hurt if he does not get on the ballot in AZ after they pass this law.


54 posted on 04/13/2011 1:08:58 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Smokeyblue

Here’s a loophole:

The bill doesn’t require proof of eligibility of a vice-presidential candidate to be president. This is not a requirement of the Consitution either.

Potentially, Obama could run as Vice-President. The on January 21, 2013, the President resigns and Obama becomes POTUS.

It’s unlikely, but it is a loophole.


55 posted on 04/13/2011 1:08:59 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Smokeyblue

I heart AZ!!!!


56 posted on 04/13/2011 1:09:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kidd

from: http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/adopted/2177antenori1024.doc.htm&Session_ID=102

Bill Number: H.B. 2177

Antenori Floor Amendment #1

Reference to: GR amendment
Amendment drafted by: Bill Boyd

FLOOR AMENDMENT EXPLANATION

The Antenori floor amendment to the Government Reform Committee amendment inserts language regarding a presidential candidate who does not possess a long form birth certificate. A candidate would be able to include two or more of the following:

a) baptismal or circumcision certificate

b) hospital birth record

c) postpartum medical record

d) early census record.

Additionally, a candidate would also be able to submit a notarized affidavit from two or more persons who witnessed the candidates birth.

Fiftieth Legislature Antenori
First Regular Session H.B. 2177

ANTENORI FLOOR AMENDMENT #1

SENATE AMENDMENTS TO H.B. 2177

(Reference to GR amendment)

Page 4, line 26, after the period insert “If the candidate does not possess a long form birth certificate as required by this paragraph, the candidate may attach two or more of the following documents that shall take the place of the long form birth certificate if the candidate swears to their authenticity and validity and the documents contain enough information for the secretary of state to determine if the candidate meets the requirements prescribed in article II, section 1, constitution of the United States:

(a) An early baptismal or circumcision certificate.

(b) A hospital birth record.

(c) A postpartum medical record for the mother or child that is signed by the doctor or midwife or person who delivered or examined the child after birth.

(d) An early census record.”

Line 28, strike “the preceding”

Between line 29 and 30, insert:

“C. In addition to the requirements of subsection B, the presidential candidate may also submit a notarized affidavit from two or more persons who witnessed the presidential candidate’s birth.

D. If the secretary of state receives any documents in place of a long form birth certificate pursuant to subsection B, paragraph 1 and cannot determine if the presidential candidate meets the requirements prescribed in Article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States, the secretary
state may establish a committee to assist in the determination or hold hearings and submit any documents for forensic examination.”

Reletter to conform

Amend title to conform

4/6/11

10:24 AM

S: BB/ly


57 posted on 04/13/2011 1:09:54 PM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Little Ray
Here is a link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52818801/HB-2177-Senate-Engrossed-Version-Arizona-State-Legislature-via-MyGov365-com

IF THE CANDIDATE DOES NOT POSSESS A LONG FORM26BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS REQUIRED BY THIS PARAGRAPH, THE CANDIDATE MAY ATTACH TWO
27OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS THAT SHALL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE LONG FORM
28BIRTH CERTIFICATE IF THE CANDIDATE SWEARS TO THEIR AUTHENTICITY AND VALIDITY
29AND THE DOCUMENTS CONTAIN ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO30DETERMINE IF THE CANDIDATE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS PRESCRIBED IN ARTICLE II,
31SECTION 1, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES:
32(a) EARLY BAPTISMAL OR CIRCUMCISION CERTIFICATE.
33 (b) HOSPITAL BIRTH RECORD.
34 (c) POSTPARTUM MEDICAL RECORD FOR THE MOTHER OR CHILD SIGNED BY THE
35 DOCTOR OR MIDWIFE OR THE PERSON WHO DELIVERED OR EXAMINED THE CHILD AFTER36BIRTH.
37(d) EARLY CENSUS RECORD.

58 posted on 04/13/2011 1:10:06 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: kidd

Good point regarding “VP loophole.”

I’d expect moslems to start running as “VP,” then Soros knights them “President” after the election.

Then, we’re stuck with another moslem president.


59 posted on 04/13/2011 1:11:44 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: NeverEVERKerry

the other amendment:
http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/adopted/2177antenori1028.doc.htm&Session_ID=102

Bill Number: H.B. 2177

Antenori Floor Amendment #2

Reference to: GR amendment

Amendment drafted by: Bill Boyd

FLOOR AMENDMENT EXPLANATION

The Antenori floor amendment to the Government Reform amendment adds a severability clause.

Fiftieth Legislature Antenori
First Regular Session H.B. 2177

ANTENORI FLOOR AMENDMENT #2

SENATE AMENDMENTS TO H.B. 2177

(Reference to GR amendment)

Page 5, between lines 9 and 10, insert:

“Sec. 3. Severability

If a provision of this act or its application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, the invalidity does not affect other provisions or applications of the act that can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this act are severable.”

Amend title to conform

4/6/11

10:28 AM

S: BB/ly

Bill found at: http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=HB2177&Session_ID=102


60 posted on 04/13/2011 1:12:34 PM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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