Arizona Senate passes Obama birther bill after boost from Donald Trump

Biz Journals ^ | 04/13/2011 | Mike Sunnucks

[Smokeyblue]

The Arizona Senate approved the so-called ‘birther’ bill requiring 2012 presidential candidates to prove they were born in the U.S. and are thus eligible to run for president.

The measure, House Bill 2177, is aimed at President Barack Obama and those on the political right who want him to produce a birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii and not Kenya, where his father if from.

The Arizona Legislature passed the bill 20-8 on a party-line vote in the State Senate with Republicans backing and Democrats opposing.

The measure includes some changes that allow for other documents beside birth certificates to be produced by presidential contenders. It now goes back to the Arizona House of Representatives for another vote. The House previously approved the birther bill without new Senate changes.

[tsowellfan]

Good news for America, bad news for anti-birther Romney.

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

[ntnychik]

Maybe the AZ House will now have enough sense to address the “natural born citizen” requirement. For all we know he was born in Hawaii, and wishes to keep other embarrassing information out of the public eye. Whichever, his father was never a citizen and his mother was under age.

[ironman]

Obama hasn’t released a “Certificate of Live Birth”. He’s released a Certification of Live Birth.

[Smokeyblue]

“Let’s hope and pray that Arizona passes this bill no matter how weak we think it is, because we desperately need that first state to stand up and be counted by having the courage to require presidential candidates in 2012-—all of them-—to provide legal proof that they are who they say they are.”

I agree. I’m not sure about all the legalese and loopholes of this bill but it no doubt will be the break in the dam for other states to pass different eligibility bills.

[Afisra]

The Donks don’t care if this passes. They’ll just find a lib judge who will rule and tie this up past the 2012 election!

[tsowellfan]

Which state is next do you predict?

[tsowellfan]

All explained here

Video: A Question of Eligibility (Full Movie!) Very informative!

http://youtu.be/mUmVFTUyEOM

[Plutarch]

This Arizona bill if passed will be checkmate for Obama.

The MSM cannot protect and relieve him. Their fulminations and accusations (of racism) will have no effect on the workings of the Arizona law.

The Constitution, law and precedent is on Arizona's side, so getting a Judge to overturn the law is uncertain. And to petition to overturn the law will be tantamount to an admission he is ineligible.

A sitting President of the United States cannot fail to have his name on any one of the State's ballots. That too would be an admission that he is ineligible.

Obama will need cough up the Long Form, which likely contains information that makes his precious narrative a monstrous lie, or admit he hasn't a Long Form and never was eligible.

[Scythian]

Supreme Court to overrule in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

[butterdezillion]

The Constitution does require VP’s to be eligible to be POTUS as well.

In the Nebraska eligibility bill, which is stalled in committee, we required both the Pres and VP candidates to prove eligibility.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Trump had nothing to do with this. The AZ legislature has written and rewritten versions of this bill a dozen times to iron out any possibility of a legal challenge that works.

Because they know that somebody, you know who, is desperate to keep this bill from becoming law before the ballots are written for the 2012 elections.

So there will be endless legal challenges, and they will seek endless court delays. It will start in the AZ Federal District Court, with one judge, then go to a three judge panel of the 9th US District Court, and then to the full 9th Circuit. And only *then* does it have a chance to make it to the SCOTUS.

And it is only a slim chance. The Supreme Court has some 8,000 cases appealed to it every year, and can only address a few dozen. Which means that Arizona may get stuck with whatever the retched 9th Circuit decides, if the SCOTUS refuses to hear the case.

And the SCOTUS has punted on this type of issue before, despite how important it is.

[spokeshave]

time has been made available to generate the best forgery that money can buy.

Ha....unless the dims own a time machine they not going to create the appropriate document chain in terms of hospital records, birth certificates including serial numbers and dates....let alone doctor/midwife/medical bills etc...

...Paging the Nordyke Twins...pick up the white courtesy phone...you have an appointment at an impeachment/treason trial....and bring your long for BC's.

[butterdezillion]

No, Hawaii’s law is the same as it’s always been. The HDOH Director has just decided to openly disobey their law.

Any state that has an open records law requires government agencies to allow any individual to access government records pertaining to them, except in some instances of law enforcement records. That includes getting copies.

To make the bill airtight, AZ should amend it to require the SOS to SUBPOENA of all birth and citizenship records including the embedded transaction logs and complete vital records history, or to specifically allow registered voters to challenge eligibility in court, with authority to subpoena the same records.

[butterdezillion]

They’ve already claimed the entire country doesn’t have standing. The judges are a lost cause. The only one who might have done the right thing was dead 7 seconds after he was hit in the aorta by a .22 fired by Jared Laughner.

[Verbosus]

Three states for what?

[Nasher]

The Donks don’t care if this passes. They’ll just find a lib judge who will rule and tie this up past the 2012 election!

If this bill passes the AZ House (fingers crossed), it won't work this time, IMO. If 0bama fights this, The Donald will be the out there 24/7 correctly hammering 0bama and his media minions that all along he was 100% right. Zero is hiding his past!

With polls then showing escalating public skepticism on the whole 0bama narrative, other states with Republican majorities will smell blood in the water. The other states will expedite legislation with no loopholes and higher requirements.

0bama will then have 2 options. Either drop out gracefully due to unspecified "health concerns" or run using a newly forged birth certificate.

This bill could completely shake up 2012.

[mojitojoe]

Florida needs to do the same...NOW!

[tsowellfan]

If 0bama fights this

If 0bama fights this it will only open up a new can of worms of suspicion. ;)

[butterdezillion]

To get discovery of all those records where the discrepancies could be found requires a subpoena. That means either specific authorization in a law for somebody to subpoena those records, or somebody with jurisdiction in law enforcement with the balls to take this on.

Unfortunately, I don’t think Joe Arpaio would have jurisdiction. Otherwise he’s equipped.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Is it just me, or does this prevent Obama from running in 2012 in Arizona based upon what he has thus far provided?

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Each state determines what the election procedures and rules are for its particular state, including what forms/documents if any need to be submitted for inclusion on the state’s ballot.

Arizona previously allowed candidates to self-attest (sign a declaration that he met the requirements to hold office), and that’s what Obama did in 2008.

There were at least 6 states which REQUIRED PROOF that the candidate meets the constitutional requirements. They included Hawaii and Texas. What proof was provided to those state chief election officers to meet that specific burden? Who provided that proof? These states election officers should be investigated for allowing election fraud in 2008.

This is what I hope Trump eventually gets to in his quest to out the usurper.