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"Now I think civilian authority is important, but if the president asks the military to do something that isn't constitutional, their loyalty is to the Constitution, not the president."

Quote from the interview.

1 posted on 04/12/2011 6:46:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
"Now I think civilian authority is important, but if the president asks the military to do something that isn't constitutional, their loyalty is to the Constitution, not the president."

Ridiculous.

2 posted on 04/12/2011 6:52:56 AM PDT by Huck (Will we still be using U6 when the pubbies are back in charge?)
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When you run down the list of issues the Oath Keepers are worried about, it reads a lot like a bill of particulars from the American Civil Liberties Union.

All well and good, except for the difference that the Oathkeepers wasn't founded by an avowed Marxist, and the ACLU was.

6 posted on 04/12/2011 7:08:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Worthless group. Mostly a PC social network for conservative groupies and cheerleaders.

Hoping to attract the folks who were supposed to constitute their core membership - AD military and LEOs, who placed their treasured pensions and security clearances above their allegiance to a free country - OK shut down all talk of militias or anything even remotely resembling active resistance to tyranny.

Mamby-pamby feel-good land, IMO. Irrelevant now, and irrelevant when the time comes.

18 posted on 04/12/2011 8:31:13 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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BTTT!


45 posted on 04/12/2011 8:33:12 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: All
The Swiss & The Nazis: How the Alpine Republic Survived in the Shadow of the Third Reich
by Stephen P. Halbrook

FR Golden Gate - Conservative Democrats!

What makes you think it’s loaded?

Colonel Jeff Cooper told me it was:

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Besides, I said it "Appears to be loaded"! - 157 by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)

Apart from keeping one’s finger off the trigger at all times - the movie “The Other Guys” was horrible about that - it’s also important for people to go against their instinct and let the gun go ahead and fall if dropped.

We sometimes have so much money invested in them, we’re sentimentally attached, or we hold it in such reverence that we want to catch it. It becomes a game of chance whether you’re going to hit the trigger and where it will be pointed if you do. ~ snip ~ more... link, scroll below...

FR Gun Club-Firearm Safety and Operations Primer-always good to review!
Dealing with citizens legally carrying a concealed weapon



by Cacique - My family has lived under fascism, nazism, communism and I was born under peronism. My last memories of my native land were tanks in front of my house and armed men holding my mother and I captive while they looked for my father. The movie and plot is always the same. Only the uniforms change.

I can tell you from experience that people always speak with bravado until they realize their actions have consequences for their families. it takes a hell of a lot to move people to take up arms. The risks are immense. I am reminded of people who brag that when they are terminally ill they are going to have the plug pulled, until the day comes they find themselves in that situation and instead want to live.

Most people are sheep by nature and even more disturbing is we are all zombies, programmed by our parents, society at large and our peers to respond a certain way. Most of what we believe is myth, lies or distortions of truth. ~ snip ~

... In this chess game they have anticipated our moves. They read history too and each generation of dictators learns from the last. Alas, America has become the last corner and we are the ones cornered. We may have no other choice whether we like it or not to react. be aware however, that 90% of our fellow citizens in fear will not join us in that endeavor, but as Alexander once knew, numbers do not matter, the will to win does. For now however, the jackbooted thugs of the state, both "republicans" and "democrats" have the upper hand. Electing one over the other in phony elections will change little as long as they are both cooking from the same recipe book. As I said before, only the uniforms change.. - 30 by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est )) (more...)

More gun info moved to: Post #31



The Democrats and Gun Control
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2003116/posts

At State Level, More Attempts to Limit Guns
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001667/posts

When Sons of Iraq Grow Up [Must Read]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001676/posts

Our global warming rage lets global hunger grow
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001662/posts

Stalling Free Trade Won't Work
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001685/posts

I'd like to see a discussion of this next one...
ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)


48 posted on 01/31/2012 4:08:01 AM PST by Golden Gate
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