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Gov. Jerry Brown: Country Hasn't Been This Divided Since Civil War
CBS News ^ | 04/11/2011 | staff

Posted on 04/11/2011 4:51:46 PM PDT by safetysign

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To: safetysign
"The governor tells Dave he believes the country hasn’t been this divided since the Civil War."

Well give yourself a well deserved pat on your back Gov. Moonbeam.
The Democrat Party and marxists and liberals along with their eunuch RINO enablers have been busting up the country politically, socially, culturally and ethnically since the 1960s. And a fine job you've done too! Congratulations. And congratulations on your deep insight.

21 posted on 04/11/2011 6:44:08 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Baynative
I can’t understand his problem. Isn’t dividing the nation part of the liberal game plan?

They just wanted to divide it without us fighting back.

Did Governor Moonbeam miss the 1960s and early 1970s? Political assassinations, anti-war protests and race riots across the country. This is nothing compared to then. The primary reason why it appears so divided is that back then political parties were less divided by ideological lines, but instead had significant regional divisions so that there were conservative southern Democrats and liberal northeaster Republicans.

22 posted on 04/11/2011 7:53:16 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: safetysign

I would agree with Brown when he said this: “We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state. It is not trivial. I’ve been around a long time, I’m a student of history, I’m a student of contemporary politics. We are facing what I would call a ‘regime crisis.’ The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question,”

The problems developing are a conflict of people and spirits. The very souls of man are set on to 2 completely incompatible coarse. One I seeks to steal from and ultimately enslave all. The other simply seeks the freedom the first must suppress to obtain their goals.

We can’t both have our way for there way is depended upon us serving them as virtual slaves.


23 posted on 04/11/2011 8:12:36 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: safetysign; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CW2 Ping


24 posted on 04/12/2011 5:49:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Jerry Brown....the paraquat polidiot.


25 posted on 04/12/2011 5:57:14 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Travis McGee

Jerry Brown making an extremely accurate statement.. now that is amazing in itself! I agree with him. The tension is so thick, it’s only a matter of time until it erupts.


26 posted on 04/12/2011 7:00:28 AM PDT by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Travis McGee; Mariner

Those once again treading on the Gadsden rattler will rue the day when they cause it to strike.


27 posted on 04/12/2011 7:26:37 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Travis McGee; BOBTHENAILER; fish hawk; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Liz

Moon Beam must have inhaled too much during the late 1960’s and 1970’s or his hidden Alzheimer’s is erasing what happened.

Geez, Moon Beam, we had riots on a continual basis out here and across the country.

DC was set on fire after MLK was killed.

Those of us in the military couldn’t wear our uniforms when traveling or to and from bases and our homes and reserve units for fear of being attacked.

Moonbeam has forgotten about Watts and similiar riots.

BeZerkley became a weekly riot and sometimes daily.

Of course those riots, fires and acts violence were started by liberals like Moonbeam, so they are conveniently forgotten.

Obozo’s best friend and advisor, Ayers, made bombs and set them off and said that “They didn’t kill enough pigs!”

The Black Panthers killed judge in Marin county and threatened the rest of America.

Moon Beam is either a liar or he has a serious mental problem as rumored re his hidden alzheimers.


28 posted on 04/12/2011 8:01:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: safetysign

RAT projecting again. All I can say is: “Be careful what you wish for; you might just get it.”


29 posted on 04/12/2011 8:04:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Grampa Dave
Jerky, er, I mean, Jerry, has incipient Alzheimer's for sure.

The Cali govt's "campaign money machine" to buy votes with tax dollars
was engineered in the 1970s when the legislature calculatingly allowed
tax-paid public-employee unions to organize and bargain.
Then-Gov. Jerry Brown signed the campaign money-machine bill in 1978.


"Wasn't my fault," 2010 Candidate Brown told cheering Democrats.

30 posted on 04/12/2011 8:23:38 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Man, there's nothin wrong with your aging memory!!!

No wonder you're a Republican... You got a memory like an elephant!!!

It's good that you "Recall" alla that stuff for the benefit of alla the youngsters here and FR...

31 posted on 04/12/2011 8:53:36 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I love the Governors of AZ, WI, NJ, LA, OH, SC, MS and ME!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I think it’s more the evil that occurs when good people do nothing, because they presume incorrectly that nothing they could do will have any beneficial effect. They’re given this complex by the hard left media!!!


32 posted on 04/12/2011 9:00:10 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I love the Governors of AZ, WI, NJ, LA, OH, SC, MS and ME!!!)
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To: Travis McGee
time sure flies


33 posted on 04/12/2011 9:57:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: Travis McGee
Interesting. The first Civil War was organized around state lines. That's not going to happen, at least I don't think so. It seems that even the most radical right-leaning state, say Wyoming or Idaho, will break with FedGov.

I see there is some chiseling away at FedGov over-reach, say gun control or Obamacare, in the state legislators. But that seems like it will all be sorted out in the Federal Courts, not on the court house green with bayonets.

It's still a far cry from declaring independence and secession.

So, if we are going to have a civil war it's going to be along some other lines - fact it almost every state in the Union has some huge areas of Blue infestation. Archy has suggested that the model might be more like the Argentinian and Chillean "Dirty Wars". That is an undercover war of ideologically aligned groups contending with one another, perhaps one faction fighting from a position of power. In the case of Chile and Argentina it was the right which held power and used the military, police and para-military groups to fight the Communist menace.

Here, I could see it going the opposite way. Obama declares a state of emergency and begins ruling by decree, while Holder and Napalitino bring their troops together (who will have been ideologically cleansed by then into a pure far-left shock force) and use them to round up rightwing dissidents using Bush-era anti-terrorism laws.

I really have trouble imagining the right doing the same thing here. The right has too much investment in the old values of honor, fidelity and adherence to the Constitution to run purges from the government. That suggests to me that if there is an insurgency from the right it will be a multi-faceted one, sort of a rising up of the Tea Parties. But the right will openly declare their intentions, as the founders did, out of a sense of obligation to the ideals of the founders.

Of course a third, and perhaps most likely scenario, one already suggested by another poster on this thread would be a breakdown and riots leading to a violent racial conflict. We saw the first glimmers of that in LA during the Rodney King riots where the Korean store owners shot at the rampaging rioters, who were mostly black and Mexican.

The last time we had a "long hot summer", in 67 and 68 the National Guard was able to restore order, and the black rioters only burnt up their own neighborhoods. It seems likely things would spread more this time, and whether or not the NatGuard would be available to put down a riot is unclear. I believe most of Oregon's has been deployed for years now in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you do get the NG, well it's a whole different force than the boys of 1967, many of whom were staying out of Vietnam by being in the Guard.

Nowadays the Guard is full of experienced battle-hardened vets.

Now, looking at these scenarios I say on a scale of 1 to 5 -where 1 is very unlikely and 5 is very likely that Scenario 1: leftist led dirty war is about a "2", Scenario 2: Tea Party uprising is probably a "1", and race riots leading to a larger conflagration is, perhaps a "3".

In other words, any real CWII is still unlikely, but it is moving in the direction of more likely over time.

34 posted on 04/12/2011 11:25:39 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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35 posted on 04/12/2011 1:12:36 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Travis McGee
Up...

36 posted on 04/12/2011 2:55:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
as someone else said,

reelecting brown, is like rotating bald tires...

37 posted on 04/12/2011 2:57:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rellimpank
jeeze, i'd hate to see the ny list...
38 posted on 04/12/2011 3:01:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee

“Medfly Brown” is obviously insane


39 posted on 04/12/2011 4:05:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Jack Black; Joe Brower

Makes me glad to have left SoCal for Fl a few years back.


40 posted on 04/12/2011 5:27:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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