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Japan may raise nuke accident severity level to highest 7 from 5
Kyodo News ^ | 4/1/2011

Posted on 04/11/2011 1:30:40 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor

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To: TennesseeProfessor

I’m not sure what “terabecquerels” is but I’d rather not find out :)


41 posted on 04/11/2011 2:48:24 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: RummyChick

For those swept out to sea, for sure. For others, it is supremely difficult.

Whether it is doomsday remains to be seen. Time will tell 100% more than will pontification.

And come what may with respect to the economy, nothing will change by handwringing. But overall I’d expect the plume of destruction from the Obamas to cause worse havoc on the economy than anything from the earthquake and tsunami. If Reagan was president, I’d have a markedly more optimistic view. More goes into economic fortune than a natural disaster here or there.


42 posted on 04/11/2011 2:52:11 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: RummyChick
It most certainly is doomsday in Japan for many people...and no end in sight.

That's not so. It is certainly a huge chance for hope and change. Don't underestimate the human spirit and ability to adapt.

43 posted on 04/11/2011 2:52:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RummyChick

They won’t admit or tell of bad news. It’s a cultural thing. Not fun working in a heavily Japanese culture company. They always send the round eye to customers to tell them bad news.


44 posted on 04/11/2011 2:53:33 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Talisker

This is more than just the Japanese Culture not wanting to ask for help.

There is something else at play.

That is one plausible explanation.

It is also possible that the Stuxnet worm was involved.

This plant used the controller and the worm was found in Japan.

Was China trying to take them out because they do suspect Japan of building weapons...and this was just a massive compilation of events?

Just a few days before this incident the Tokoyo Governor had made some remarks about weapons
http://the-diplomat.com/tokyo-notes/2011/03/08/ishihara-japan-should-have-nukes/

It has been a theme for sometime.

I suspect they were doing it behind the scenes.

With GE’s help????

With the approval of the US?????

Just some wild speculation:

What if the US knew they were doing it and looked the other way under Bush..and all of a sudden here comes Obama with his love of China ....

Why blackmail Japan when they asked him for his help. Obama told them they had to shut down some plants before he would help.

That story didn’t get much play.


45 posted on 04/11/2011 2:56:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: OB1kNOb

The latest information I have seen said there would be little to no radiation with the debris. Radioactive particles should be well washed off and dilute by the time it gets here. There may be some body parts in the debris washing ashore. That info was put out by oceanographers from both Washington and Oregon.


46 posted on 04/11/2011 2:58:48 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Moleman

I know that is part of their culture.

Something else is going on.


47 posted on 04/11/2011 3:00:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: topher

Chernobyl was very different than what is going on now.

That reactor was ejecting radioactive MATERIALS in to the atmosphere, not just the radioactivity which is being picked up by atmospheric vapors.

The graphite fire added a huge amount of radioactive material to that fallout.


48 posted on 04/11/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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To: pnh102
I remember all the FR nuke experts saying this was a big nothing. In fact, they were absolutely rabid about it. I know why, it's their hatred of all things to do with the environmental movement so much so that “wishful thinking” takes precidence over reality.
49 posted on 04/11/2011 3:01:56 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: OB1kNOb

What got washed out of the plant area by the tsunami would include nothing of any consequence containing radionuclides. The releases of radionuclides would have begun some hours later, after the battery cooling systems ran out of juice.


50 posted on 04/11/2011 3:03:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RummyChick
Little Boy had about 64 Kg of U-235. Less than 1 Kg fissioned.

Fat Man had about 6.5 Kg of Pu-239.

IIRC, a 1,000 MWe nuclear reactor burns through something like 25 TONS of fuel per year. Those reactors had operated for almost 40 years. Even if only the LAST fuel cycle waste was in the pool (and it is likely that it was a decade or more of waste), there would be about 25 tons of it, enriched at a level or about 3-5 percent plus the fission products and daughter isotopes. Each.

It seems to me that adds up to a lot more mass of rad waste and a lot more activity than could have possibly been generated by the detonation of the A bomb. The question is the energy (and hence distance) of the dispersal, but those hydrogen blasts were mucho impressivo.

Nuke engineers and physicists feel free to take that apart for me if you'd like.

51 posted on 04/11/2011 3:03:43 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: bvw

It certainly is true.

Have you missed the stories about the people not being able to go back to their homes, businesses, way of live..and flat out saying they were too old to start over somewhere else. It will be a wasteland. Do you not understand the half life of Cesium 137????

We will see how well they are compensated for this mess by the Government.

But if you don’t think it is a doomsday..by all means GO TO THE HOT ZONE AND HELP THEM.

They are even having trouble getting basic necessities delivered to them.

THEY NEED HELP.


52 posted on 04/11/2011 3:04:21 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Japan officially raises Fukushima to Level 7, same as Chernobyl

http://enenews.com/japan-officially-raises-fukushima-to-level-7-same-as-chernobyl-translation


53 posted on 04/11/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by Revel
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To: TennesseeProfessor
I don't know who these folks were, but they were either incredibly brave or incredibly stupid, or else the numbers shown in the video are low enough not to be concerned. Definitely a riveting video, though.

Fukushima Deserted Zone - Lonely & Deserted English subtitled)

54 posted on 04/11/2011 3:06:53 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats believe in democracy when they have the votes; when they don't they believe in thuggery.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Sorry, that just a bit of hyperbole on my part.

It’s just that 270,000 curies is a LOT of radiation, and would require a VERY large safety zone.


55 posted on 04/11/2011 3:07:40 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: SargeK

I presume this was during the hours that the fuel rods in the #4 used fuel pond were exposed, and they had to evacuate all the workers.

There was a lot of talk at that time about how during that period, there was a large source of additional radiation that escaped; this would seem to be the measurement of that.

That would also correspond to the low readings they have now that they were able to put water back into the #3 and #4 spent fuel ponds. Still no word on whether #4 is leaking, but they reported adding water a couple of times, so it could have a small leak.

The overall numbers they are reporting don’t sound horribly bad. They have exceeded the yearly limit for us mortals, but they aren’t approaching their yearly limits for safe operation in a nuclear zone yet, or the limit at which it is expected that you would see negative effects. With the radiation measurements much lower now, hopefully there will be a gradual reduction of radiation throughout the area, so the numbers they have now won’t get much bigger.


56 posted on 04/11/2011 3:10:01 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SargeK
We don’t even have many of the kind of hand-held instruments you’d need for that sort of radiation field. GM tubes are useless at that range. You’d need something from the Cold War like the CDV-715.

Well there was a video of a couple guys who rode thru the area with radiation instruments measuring as they drove along ,and when they got out to test the air...came within a mile of the plants. Recording as they went. Actually the video is pretty interesting to view.

57 posted on 04/11/2011 3:10:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: Scythian

I had one woman tell me that the radiation levels were safe for these workers at the plant because TEPCO wasn’t sending in robots.
She also said that it was safe for those workers not to have individual dosimeters because TEPCO had done a risk assessment and so obviously it was safe.

this was a woman who works with radiation.

I still can’t believe she thinks this.


58 posted on 04/11/2011 3:10:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Larry Lucido; kidd; Toddsterpatriot

The has been a veritable army of straw men constructed on these threads, as those who have been following them can attest.


59 posted on 04/11/2011 3:11:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
There has been . . .
60 posted on 04/11/2011 3:12:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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