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Thousands of pro-union supporters rally downtown (Chicago) for Wis. workers
Chicago Sun Times ^ | April 10, 2011 | Mark Konkol, staff reporter

Posted on 04/10/2011 12:53:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Laborers, carpenters, electricians, machinists, sheet metal workers, police officers, firefighters, teachers, actors, writers and pharmacists from Illinois and surrounding states marched from corners of the Loop, waving pro-union banners and chanting “We are one.”

From the stage, organizers warned that workers in other states, including Illinois, could face union-busting legislation similar to the Wisconsin law and urged them to be prepared.

“We didn’t pick this fight. We didn’t start this fight,” USAction President William McNary said. “But if it’s a fight you want, it’s a fight you are going to get.”

[snip]

Civil rights activist and former union leader Bill Lucy called on members to band together to remove the “temporary governor of Wisconsin” and repeal the union-busting law he labeled a “certain brand of evil.”

“Brothers and sisters, I don’t know what ship you may have come over on, but we are in the same boat now,” Lucy said of the looming threat that other states might follow Wisconsin’s lead. “We will not give up. We will not give out. We will not give in.”

Wisconsin state Sen. Chris Larson, who spent 22 days in Chicago with fellow lawmakers to try to block a vote on the bill that killed collective bargaining rights , warned workers that those rights are at risk nationwide.

That’s why Chicago Ald. Joe Moore (49th) attended the rally.

“Listen, they’re doing it in Wisconsin now, and they’ll do it in Illinois next,” he said. “We have to stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in Wisconsin and be ready.”

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


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Union workers rally Saturday at the Daley Center to show
their support for peers in Wisconsin. | Al Podgorski~ Sun-Times

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1 posted on 04/10/2011 12:54:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We are One!!!”

Who’s we?


2 posted on 04/10/2011 1:10:13 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“We didn’t pick this fight. We didn’t start this fight,” USAction President William McNary said.

And you are not going to finish it either.

3 posted on 04/10/2011 1:11:02 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too late dumb a**es, the bill passed, Prosser was re-elected, despite the best efforts(and money) of the Union thugs. You lost, get over it.


4 posted on 04/10/2011 1:13:07 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All union printed signs.


5 posted on 04/10/2011 1:23:35 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why does the phrase “target rich” spring to mind...


6 posted on 04/10/2011 1:37:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: BigCinBigD

I see human debris left in the wake of Democratic Party run villages, towns, cities and states.

I see wasted potential; America’s strength tapped.

I see the Democratic Party plantation of public sector workers dependent on government to confiscate for their needs.

I see that they need to beg, borrow or steal vs standing together against anti-Americans and scorning the idea of their neighbor reaching deeper to support them.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 1:53:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: calex59
Too late dumb a**es, the bill passed, Prosser was re-elected, despite the best efforts(and money) of the Union thugs. You lost, get over it.

Unfortunately, they will never get over it. Liberals will try to turn violent, but I doubt they will find the support they think they have.

Liberals never stop....they are like a disease.

8 posted on 04/10/2011 2:40:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ya gotta laugh. The rent as mob party doesn’t even know which state they are supposed to be demonstrating in.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 2:42:43 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: Erik Latranyi
....Liberals never stop....they are like a disease.

And first an foremost they are liars. Everything they do originates from lies. Their movement depends on people spreading the lies and people willing to believe the lies.

10 posted on 04/10/2011 2:47:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But if it’s a fight you want, it’s a fight you are going to get.”

Kill all the taxpaying non-union citizens! Oh, wait...


11 posted on 04/10/2011 2:49:28 AM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And first an foremost they are liars. Everything they do originates from lies.

Absolutely true.

There is a thread around here regarding natural gas drilling where a liberal wrote a blog alleging the gas companies were 'dumping' into aquifers.

The number of FReepers who gave the benefit of the doubt to the author and placed the burden of proof on the gas drillers was very sad to see.

I gave up buying into liberal hysteria (lies) years ago. Yet so many FReepers allow themselves to believe the worst about this country.

12 posted on 04/10/2011 2:57:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Gene Eric; All
Gene Eric: "Who's we?"

People who buy this kind of "logic" and always resort to race baiting to keep their members loyal:

....Civil rights activist and former union leader Bill Lucy called on members to band together to remove the “temporary governor of Wisconsin” and repeal the union-busting law he labeled a “certain brand of evil.” ....

June 20, 2010 (on eve of his retirement)".....[William] Lucy shared his thoughts about the future of the labor movement and AFSCME [1.6-million member American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees ] in a telephone interview as the convention opened. Rather than dwell on labor’s myriad problems, I thought we could start with where Lucy saw signs of hope, but he quickly shifted to problems. Above all else for AFSCME, he saw increasingly a “lack of support for quality public services,” even though a strong public sector is needed both to support private economic activity–with infrastructure, education, maintenance of public order and justice, and much more–and right now to stimulate growth.

“Nobody wants to pay more taxes,” he says, “but the public sector is needed to jump start the private economy. In the long run the stimulus will provide some relief, but there may be need for another stimulus.” And generating more good jobs in turn makes the public sector viable by producing more tax revenue. “What we need are good jobs with high wages and good benefits, not more minimum wage jobs,” Lucy says. “I would argue we need a high-wage recovery.”

On the whole, Lucy argues Obama has done a good job under the circumstances with a crisis-ridden economy and an obstructionist Republican faction in Congress, but he was upset by Obama’s public support for the Central Falls, Rhode Island, school superintendent’s dismissal of teachers when he failed to reach an agreement with the union.

Now public sector unions face not just efforts to contract out or privatize public functions but also right-wing campaigns to shrink government and its responsibilities. Most middle-class and working-class voters are, Lucy contends, more rational about the value of public services than somewhat more affluent Tea Party supporters, who include a large element who “are just about as racist as you can get.” ................" Source

13 posted on 04/10/2011 3:05:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Erik Latranyi
....I gave up buying into liberal hysteria (lies) years ago.

MSM headline writers and editors depend on human nature to believe the worst, despite the facts; socialists advance when they lie and distort the truth.

Here is a good piece by David Horowitz (who well knows of that which he speaks). To update his piece, substitute Obama for Hillary and Holder for Lee (and toss in all the communists that his administration has running the show -- including Hillary -- or call her a "Third Way" socialist -- they're all cut from the same commmie cloth.

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[excerpt] ".....Ever since abandoning the utopian illusions of the progressive cause, I have been struck by how little the world outside the left seems to actually understand it. How little those who have not been inside the progressive mind are able to grasp the cynicism behind its idealistic mask or the malice that drives its hypocritical passion for “social justice.”

No matter how great the crimes progressives commit, no matter how terrible the futures they labor to create, no matter how devastating the human catastrophes they leave behind, the world outside the faith seems ready to forgive their “mistakes” and to grant them the grace of “good intentions.”

It would be difficult to recall, for example, the number of times I have been introduced on conservative platforms as “a former civil rights worker and peace activist in the 1960s.” I have been described this way despite having written a lengthy autobiography that exposes these self-glorifying images of the left as so much political deceit. Like many New Left leaders whom the young Mrs. Clinton once followed (and who are her comrades today), I saw myself in the 1960s as a Marxist and a revolutionary. What was idealistic about exploiting an issue like civil rights, for example, to achieve the destruction of the social order that made civil rights possible?

New Left progressives like Hillary Clinton and Acting Deputy Attorney General Bill Lann Lee were involved in supporting, or promoting, or protecting or making excuses for violent anti-American radicals abroad like the Vietcong and criminal radicals at home like the Black Panthers. We did this then -- just as progressives still do now -- in the name of “social justice” and a dialectical world-view that made this deception seem ethical and the fantasy seem possible.

As Jamie Glazov, a student of the left, has observed in an article about the middle-class defenders of recently captured Seventies terrorist Kathy Soliah: “if you can successfully camouflage your own pathology and hatred with a concern for the ‘poor’ and the ‘downtrodden,’ then there will always be a ‘progressive’ milieu to support and defend you.” Huey Newton, George Jackson, Angela Davis, Bernardine Dorhn, Sylvia Baraldini, Rubin “Hurricane” Carter, Mumia Abu Jamal, H. Rap Brown, Rigoberta Menchu and innumerable others have all discovered this principle in the course of their criminal careers.

There is a superficial sense, of course, in which we were civil rights and peace activists -- and that is certainly the way I would have described myself at the time, particularly if I were speaking to an audience that was not politically left. It is certainly the way Mrs. Clinton and my former comrades refer to themselves and their pasts in similar settings today.

But they are lying. When they defend racial preferences now, for example, a principle they denounced as “racist” and fought against as “civil rights” activists then, even they must know it.

The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity, and often, therefore, without realizing that they are. The necessity for lying arises because it is the political lie that gives their cause its life.

Why, if you were one of them, for example, would you tell the truth? If you were serious about your role as part of humanity’s vanguard, if you had the knowledge (which others did not), that would lead them to a better world, why would you tell them a truth they could not “understand” and that would only servie to hold them back?

If you believed that others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as part of a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the same horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the army of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a redeemer. To feel anointed. To be among the elect. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism of all.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in the process. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than any injustice they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes,” why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth......" [end excerpt] - Progressive Narcissism

[also from Horowitz].....“The Third Way” is a term familiar from the lexicon of the left with a long and dishonorable pedigree. It is the most ornate panel in the tapestry of deception I described in the beginning of this essay. In the 1930s, Nazis used “The Third Way” to characterize their own brand of National Socialism as equidistant between the “internationalist” socialism of the Soviet Union and the capitalism of the West. Trotskyists used “The Third Way” as a term to distinguish their own Marxism from Stalinism and capitalism. In the 1960s, New Leftists used “The Third Way to define their politics as an independent socialism between the Soviet gulag and the democracies of the West.

But as the history of Nazism, Trotskyism and the New Left have shown, there is no “third way.” There is the capitalist, democratic way based on private property and individual rights – a way that leads to liberty and universal opportunity. And there is the socialist way of group identities, group rights, a relentless expansion of the political state, restricted liberty and diminished opportunity. “The Third Way” is not a path to the future. It is just the suspension between these two destinations – a holding pattern while the stigma of leftist disasters recedes. It is a bad faith attempt on the part of people who are incapable of giving up their socialist schemes to escape the taint of their discredited past....." [end excerpt]

14 posted on 04/10/2011 3:38:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In Illinois, there is absolutely NO DANGER of Wisconsin-type legislation. Because even the Republicans are co-opted by the Machine.

Last year, they came within a handful of votes of instituting a voucher system for low-income students (like Milwaukee & Cleveland have had for a few years). A coalition was cobbled together of minorities (Black & Latino) and conservative Republicans. It was kneecapped at the last minute by RINOs, who were bought out by the unions.

It is no mystery why these Great Lakes states are depopulating themselves, one census count after another. High taxes to fund public “servants” who earn far more than we taxpayers do. I left. Private sector jobs move out. It won’t be long until the whole Great Lakes area resembles Detroit.

Two classes of people. Public employee unions and welfare recipients. And no productive people to pay taxes to fund either thing.

I miss the midwest, so many things about it.

But I’m glad I left, too.


15 posted on 04/10/2011 3:52:33 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

Those who support these union thug tactics (no matter where they hail or seek harbor) are no better than third world criminal organizations that physically cripple people so they’ll have to beg for a living and give the lion’s share of the take to their oppressors.

Crippling people emotionally is worse than crippling them physically; loss of learning is worse than being crippled from a chopped off limb.


16 posted on 04/10/2011 4:53:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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It'a amazing to me that in light of what is going on in Europe these folks can remain so blind.

In a couple years when the govs. of Wisc. and Ill. are both up for re-election Wisc. will be fiscally sound and healthy and Ill. will be, well, ill.

At that point perhapa a light will dawn.

17 posted on 04/10/2011 4:53:11 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like a fat, squatting one-eyed vulture deciding which morsel to eat first.

Now that’s a perfect symbol for Chicago, don’t you think?


18 posted on 04/10/2011 5:00:09 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My sweetie lives in Chicago. He’s trapped.

He has two elderly parents who need him around. He’s been forced (due to the economy) to teach in a private Catholic school, earning 1/3 of what he used to earn. He is also a widower, with 4 kids.

He also has two sisters. Neither of the “real world.” One holds some sort of education leadership position at Stanford (mind you, never been in a classroom before students. She teaches teachers how to teach!) The other sister holds some technology position at the board level, and she has also not been in a classroom before students.

These two think the economy is fine, thank you. They have no idea why Obama is not the greatest thing since sliced bread.


19 posted on 04/10/2011 5:04:39 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Meanwhile, Ohio has also passed anti-collective-bargaining provisions for public employees (Senate Bill 5)

First step is to reduce union revenues from public employees. Next step should be full Right to Work in both Ohio and Wisconsin, plus Michigan passing something similar to Ohio's SB5.

The Dems are primarily financed by union money. Eliminate union money and the Dems are toast for 2012.

20 posted on 04/10/2011 5:16:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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