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cultural and language barriers in all fairness their parents speak spainsh, have told them all about Mexico. What I do not get is, come to the U.S. illegally, then decide to go ahead and have children knowing fully well what the outcome will be, if and when Immigration catches them. The parents created these problems not us. Nobody ever said life was fair but you cannot say because I broke the laws in coming here after which I have kids, the laws are suppose to be ignored. Chances are good said family members will return in a few weeks.)specifically for people that have done nothing criminal other than come here to work in order to work either there is fake or stolen documents involved , driving without licenses and insurance. There is more to it, then I just showed up to work. Where is Rep. Luis Gutiérrez, he has a million friends, who can take care of these kids. Seems like the supporters are few and far when it comes down to spending their own money.
1 posted on 04/09/2011 4:06:27 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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When school friends wonder why her father is no longer in the picture, Elisabeth has learned to change the subject

Baloney. Single parent children are now the norm, not the exception.

29 posted on 04/09/2011 5:00:26 PM PDT by iowamark
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“potential” poverty; “marital discord”

Moms and Dads get separated and divorced over all sorts of reasons; Mom not wanting to live at the life-standard Dad can provide is one of those. Perhaps Mom should take steps to finalize a divorce and remarry in order to provide a family structure and support her children. Or perhaps Mom should accept responsibility for who she married, and the crime she and he committed, and return to her husband in Mexico, to work with him instead of against him.

Mom whining about it and expecting reparations (and teaching her children to, also) in whatever form one wants to call it, is nonproductive and just extends the children’s pain. Cowgirl up, Mommy Dearest.


32 posted on 04/09/2011 5:05:42 PM PDT by blueplum
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The article seems to be saying that birthright citizenship is cruel to children.

Let us end it, then.


34 posted on 04/09/2011 5:15:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Amendment XIV Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside...

Someone who is born to parents who are foreign nationals, here illegally, is not 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof', but born to parents of a another country. These are not immigrants, but invaders.

Had the parents been here legally, as legal immigrants, they would have been subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, and the children would be citizens.

I think that 'anchor baby' status is a gross misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, and I think that misinterpretation (by Globalists and other Open Borders types) is no accident, but a willing affront to our Soverign Country and our Constitution.

35 posted on 04/09/2011 5:18:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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This has little to do with being deported.

But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan with her children

36 posted on 04/09/2011 5:21:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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I live in Baja. I’m an American and I own a restaurant. I employee Mexicans. I also attend a local Bilingual Church. The USA has been deporting hundreds since 911. I see the impact everyday. Mostly Mexicans who have lived in the USA for 10-15 years and never completed their visa paperwork. If they get involved in any crime they are deported and never allowed to apply again. There is supposed to be a 10 year waiting period before being able to re-apply, but with the backlog most will never be able to apply. Most could sneak back across or hire someone to take them, but they all know if they are caught they go directly to jail and most are scared of going back. So the system is working. Unfortunately there are no jobs here. The Mexican government is incapable of creating any jobs. The tourist areas are hurting the most. Until this drug cartel issue is cleared up the struggle for jobs will continue. I have heard a few sad cases where they are dumped here in TJ and don’t know anyone in Mexico. But like most Mexicans they are survivors and they have seen this all before.
It will take another 3 to 5 years to clean up this mess and their image. Once that is done the influx of Americans will start up again. It is a beautiful place to retire. There about 25,000 Americans in Baja (I think). Beautiful weather, great people, no traffic and ocean views that would cost you at a minimum $500,000 in CA. The growth of the Americans moving here and the construction of vacation homes came to a standstill about 3 years ago.
Most of the violence in Baja is in TJ. If you mess with drugs and are in TJ after 1am you will find trouble. Until the American military brings down a professional Army to train the Mexican military this will take 10 more years. The Mexican Military is not getting the support they need and do not have the discipline that the USA military has. Anyway these are my thoughts..........


37 posted on 04/09/2011 5:35:42 PM PDT by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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Please do not assume Mexico every time, they are the main source of these scofflaws, but certainly not the only.

They rolled the dice, hoping the kids would be an anchor to keep them here despite the law.

It’s time to reiterate that MERELY being born here, to ILLEGAL ALIEN parents is NOT a shortcut to permanent “immigration”!

We are being invaded, deport the entire family, NO exceptions.

In addition reduce LEGAL immigration from any source country by three times the number of illegals detected from that country.

We also need to repeal the “Kennedy Amendment” ASAP.

Personally, I have reached the point that I would eliminate ALL immigration, for at least ten years.
We have no actual control of our borders, we need a chance to catch up with the problem.
Eliminating legal immigration would free up more resources to deal with the illegals.


39 posted on 04/09/2011 6:16:34 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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Good comment about breaking the law and then being surprised at the consequences. None the less, the children are innocent parties and I value every immigrant that chooses to live in the US legally.

My dream solution to illegal immigration would be to try the immigrants by a jury of their neighbors. If twelve neighbors unanimously choose to give them amnesty, then let them stay. I think a lot of US citizens would be deported if given a trial by their neighbors.


40 posted on 04/09/2011 6:22:55 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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43 posted on 04/09/2011 6:36:54 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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“It’s a horrific situation,” said Josh Hoyt, director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights.”

Find out where this lying, sniveling leftist pig lives and send him 10,000 illegals for free food, shelter and medical care.


44 posted on 04/09/2011 6:37:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan...She, like her husband, is undocumented...

"Domestic discord?" I guess it's easier to be a baby mamma to FOUR child on Uncle Sucker's dime than in Mexico.

Your children belong with you... in MEXICO where they can see their FATHER and extended family. Or did you sneak all them in too?

She applied for a visa? It should be DENIED. You broke into the United States. You dropped one two three FOUR anchor babies over 14 years. You should not be rewarded. This is something you brought on your children. Not us. Not them. YOU. You and your 'estranged' husband.

46 posted on 04/09/2011 7:31:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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52 posted on 04/09/2011 9:47:44 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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Heartless as I am, my reaction is that it says it all if the parents would leave the children here to fend for themselves.


53 posted on 04/10/2011 5:00:08 AM PDT by grania
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