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Tea Party revels in newfound clout: ‘When we’re cutting, we’re winning’
Boston Globe ^ | 4/09/11 | Matt Viser

Posted on 04/09/2011 8:22:29 AM PDT by Libloather

Tea Party revels in newfound clout: ‘When we’re cutting, we’re winning’
By Matt Viser
Globe Staff / April 9, 2011

WASHINGTON — Americans learned yesterday the full power of the Tea Party, with newly elected conservatives calling the shots in the House rather than railing against government from the sidelines. For many in the movement, pushing the government to the brink of closure was a crowning achievement, an emphatic statement that spending must be reined in — and now.

“When we’re cutting,’’ said Representative Nan Hayworth, a New York Republican, “we’re winning.’’

“It’s a victory for the American people,’’ declared Representative Allen West, Republican of Florida. “When you look at what has happened over the past few years — where we’ve had these astronomical debt and deficits — it’s amazing how we’re actually having a conversation in Washington, D.C., about spending cuts.’’

But for those outside the movement, it put on full display the uncompromising principles of the far right, showing that Tea Party-aligned lawmakers are so ideologically rigid they will throw sand into the gears of government to prove their point. Democrats questioned why conservatives who campaigned on creating jobs were so eager to furlough 800,000 government employees and freeze their paychecks.

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“It’s a victory for the American people,’’ declared Representative Allen West

I like this guy.

1 posted on 04/09/2011 8:22:31 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
" . . . were so eager to furlough 800,000 government employees and freeze their paychecks."

Because we can't afford them?

2 posted on 04/09/2011 8:26:53 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Libloather

Think of it as the first baby step.

Real cutting will only happen after 2012, when the Republicans pick up the senate.

Hopefully, there is a very strong, very conservative candidate who will run for president as well. Though he will have to announce late in the game, because he is going to be attacked and vilified with every bit of hatred and bile the Democrats can muster.

His best bet will probably be to order a return of most American combat forces, so his focus can almost exclusively be on domestic policy—something that Republican presidents have traditionally disliked.

But this can be done safely only if congress seals the US borders first thing, primarily to Muslim entry. An embargo of Muslim entry for four years. And no guff from federal judges that it is discriminatory.

The Republican will have to lead a Republican House and Senate to enormous cuts with dizzying speed. Closing entire agencies of government, then perhaps passing balanced budget and presidential line item veto amendments to the States.

Layoffs in the federal service of a third to a half of all government employees. And if any federal judge interferes, then threaten them with impeachment. And if this means cancelling their federal employee collective bargaining rights, so be it, and decertify the union at the same time.

Congress and the president should be laying off and closing parts of the government so rapidly that every day for months there should be a news story, and the bureaucracy will be so frazzled that they cannot launch a defense or counter attack.


3 posted on 04/09/2011 8:39:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Libloather

O wanted billions of dollars more in spending.

We reversed course. Thank you tea party folks for standing up for all of us.


4 posted on 04/09/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: Libloather
Americans learned yesterday the full power of the Tea Party, with newly elected conservatives calling the shots in the House rather than railing against government from the sidelines.

Yeah. That explains how we went from 100 billion dollars in cuts to 10 billion dollars in cuts in 8 short weeks.

C'mon, 2012!

5 posted on 04/09/2011 8:41:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A Republican without a jobs for Americans plan is a waste.


6 posted on 04/09/2011 8:42:18 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Libloather
Democrats questioned why conservatives who campaigned on creating jobs were so eager to furlough 800,000 government employees and freeze their paychecks.

Stupid DemocRATS. It's because we believe the private sector should be creating jobs, not government.

7 posted on 04/09/2011 8:42:56 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Democrats questioned why conservatives who campaigned on creating jobs were so eager to furlough 800,000 government employees and freeze their paychecks.

Upon further reflection, I believe there is something to be learned here as it relates to The Tea Party's strategy going in to 2012.

The word "jobs" should be stricken from our vocabulary and replaced with the word "businesses".

Somebody ping Sarah Palin. I think I just won her the 2012 election.

8 posted on 04/09/2011 8:45:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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“And if this means cancelling their federal employee collective bargaining rights, so be it, and decertify the union at the same time.”

Federal employee unions may not bargain for wages or for benefits including healthcare or retirement.


9 posted on 04/09/2011 8:48:39 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Libloather

Cutting? Winning? Please. $38.5 billion is less than 1% of the Kenyan Muslim’s budget. Its meaningless. Its a joke. Bread and circuses for the serfs, but it is nothing. Our guys are pussies and the majority we worked so hard to elect in 2010 is a cruel disappointment in 2011.

Boehner is a joke. Cantor is a joke. Obama is the one who is laughing.


10 posted on 04/09/2011 8:49:51 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Real cutting will only happen after 2012, when the Republicans pick up the senate

Yeah, just like now, right? Nothing was cut because the funding for these so called cuts will still go on. Damn, are we stupid. Bonehead has got to go.

11 posted on 04/09/2011 8:50:11 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Libloather

Let’s not get carried away. $38 billion is a long, looonnng way from $1.7 trillion and until “entitlements” are killed, not cut - killed, we will forever be chasing a receding goal line.


12 posted on 04/09/2011 9:07:24 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: Astronaut

We won only one thing in this debacle, we forced (.)bama to cancel his latest holiday. Other than that, it was a total disaster.


13 posted on 04/09/2011 9:22:32 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting has become an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Great point!

We need to stress that we don’t need “jobs,” we need business jobs! A job where taxpayers have to pay you is not helping our economy. But a job where you sell products or services to the public does. Sell ice cream at the beach, or sweep the showroom at the Honda lot. Make a little business helping kids apply for college. Work for a restaurant. Get out of the mode of having the city, county, or Feds pay for you to do anything, except police and fire.


14 posted on 04/09/2011 9:28:27 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Astronaut

Remember, this is 2011 Obama / Pelosi budget that was trimmed, in a way retroactively.

2012 is the budget year that 2010 class of Republicans was elected to enact. So the current cuts, even though modest, are a bonus.


15 posted on 04/09/2011 9:43:36 AM PDT by joe212
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To: Astronaut

Amen. You send them to school and all they do is eat their lunch.

The next time one of our own even Utters the word “Bipartisan” ..... they Must be reminded, .... with an avalanche of phone calls, that,

Bipartisan is a synonym for date rape.


16 posted on 04/09/2011 9:44:03 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Logical me

Nothing could be cut because both the senate and the WH are in Democrat hands.

W. Bush, with a Republican congress could have changed things, except that so blessed many RINOs were in office, especially the senate, who *wanted* more government spending, that it had no chance.

Finally, the Tea Party has come along to put out as many RINOs as they can, so they will no longer have their control over the Republican party. This is so obvious that several RINO senators are not running for reelection this time, to avoid a bruising fight with conservative challengers.

This means that if the Republicans keep a healthy majority in the House, the only obstacle will be the POTUS, if he is a Democrat or a RINO. Instead, in 2012, the Republican candidate must be hardcore conservative, focused on taking a machete to the federal government.

Congress may still not lead, but they will likely flesh out his cuts, and he will make a bucket full of enemies who will strive to defeat him in 2016.

But if he is successful in cutting down the federal government in size, he can retire after four years, while everyone benefits from what he had done. Sure there will be a lot of screaming to bring back big government, but nobody is going to vote to do that.


17 posted on 04/09/2011 10:34:58 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: joe212

There seems to be a 100% or bust mentality going on. This wasnt our budget, and we got something. It took the socialists over 100 years of incrementalism to get where we are. It will probably take the same to get us back. It wont be easy and it wont be quick. And that will make a great amount of reactionaires and pessimists cry the world is ending or that they have been sold down the river.

Our country and specifically, our movement, has such a short attention span and lack of patience that we give up in 3 months. We will never advance that way. I saw a post a few weeks back that Allen West is a RINO because he only votes conservatively on budget matters 75% of the time. That was after he had been in office 6 weeks. How is there enough data yet at that point (and what was the author counting as the right vote) to call him a RINO (the laziest term out there).


18 posted on 04/09/2011 10:37:30 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Paine in the Neck; Mouton
Let’s not get carried away. $38 billion is a long, looonnng way from $1.7 trillion and until “entitlements” are killed, not cut - killed, we will forever be chasing a receding goal line.

We won only one thing in this debacle, we forced (.)bama to cancel his latest holiday. Other than that, it was a total disaster.

I agree. This is just a "small win," if a win at all, compared to a much larger and looming battle. I hope the true conservatives in congress don't lose focus and keep on fighting... which reminds me... I should email to some of 'em just just to remind 'em. :P
19 posted on 04/09/2011 10:45:24 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Work towards a succesful 2012!)
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To: Texas Eagle
ACTUALLY, that was $100 billion in cuts from Obama's 2011 proposed budget. Boehner's deal cut $78.5 billion from it. Obama got NO new spending and had to settle for actual cuts.

We need more and the 2012 budget battle will be a real test of mettle. Ultimately, a fiscally responsible president and capture of both houses of congress will be required to do it right. If we're lucky it'll happen in 2012 but I wouldn't count on it.

20 posted on 04/09/2011 10:50:27 AM PDT by newzjunkey (OBAMA & his DEMOCRAT allies are starving children & killing the elderly.)
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