Posted on 04/08/2011 4:15:07 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
Predictably Kirstin Powers, the resident Fox lib said how "destructive" this effort by Trump was for the Republican party (so kind of her to worry about the GOP)...but whoever that other SOB panelist was, how dare he dispense such an ill-informed chastisement of what Trump is doing...this guy makes the sweeping pronouncement that it is so utterly ridiculous, what an 'unserious' man Trump is.
I guarantee that jackass could not answer the first questions on any information about Obama's hidden BC.
How dare thatr pompous ass.
why do none of these geniuses ever ponder the question--how it is so ODD that Obama doesn't just produce it and why spend so much money to keep any evidence out of sight?
Bam Bam is not any kind of a citizen.
He is NOT a citizen.
Natural Born Citizen is a child born to TWO American citizen parents! Not just born on American soil. Otherwise, all children born of foreign diplomats here would be NBCs. Obama never was a NBC.
Wow. It’s hard to believe that no one listened to him — especially with his credentials. I never saw that video. Hopefully Trump and others in the media will give it a look.
The thing that gets me is the standard liberal response that any questions about the BC have been debunked. An AP article yesterday on Trump said again that the BC issues have been “debunked long ago”. It mentioned the grandmother in Kenya who claimed she witnessed his birth there, and that it has been... “debunked.”
OK, how was it debunked, and what debunked it? If it’s debunked, fine - prove it, and debunk why Obama is paying legal fees to keep his records private. Straight answers are all anyone wants here.
why Obama is paying legal fees to keep his records private.
To the tune of 2 million dollars; producing the certifcate: FREE.
Well Trump would. If the liberal boobs in the media are interested in the truth they will investigate it.
Incorrect.
At the time, U.S. citizenship law did not recognize either dual citizenship or loss of citizenship if one was actually born in-country.
Indonesia may have considered him a citizen, but he had not lost his birthright under U.S. law.
He moved to Indonesia then returned to the US. It is possible he returned to the US and came back through immigration (which he probably did not) then would be considered a naturalized not natural born citizen.
He attended school in Indonesia at a time when only citizens were allowed to attend school there. Indonesia did not provide for dual citizenship. Therefore he would have needed to return to US though immigration to attain his naturalized status.
Here is a letter that Carlyle posted on obenthreads.wordpress.com that was intended for Rush Limbaugh and anyone else that will listen. I think he makes excellent points:
The Obama fraud — Why we are frustrated — Further to your conversation with a caller whereby it was insinuated that you were slow to come to this issue.
Yes, we understand that you were and are ahead of others in the Media in at least touching on this issue. But we are very frustrated that no one, yourself included, came even remotely close to addressing this issue with the vigor it deserves.
You and Donald Trump, still, have just tickled the edges of this monumental fraud and constitutional crisis. This is likely the biggest con, in the biggest leader, in the biggest nation in the history of the planet. And it gets second or third billing, or no billing at all.
There are thousands of us, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands or millions – highly educated professionals (lawyers, doctors, teachers, scientists, engineers) as well as industrious hard workers – who have quite thoroughly understood this issue and it’s depths and nuances since the middle of 2008. But nobody would listen to us. We have no bully pulpit. We understand that the liberal MSM would ignore us. But we are frustrated that our congressmen ignored us. We are frustrated that conservative spokesmen, such as yourself, ignored us. We sent letters and evidence, we sent millions of emails, we called into your broadcasts, and many others. We are uniformly rebuffed and discourteously rejected by the call screeners.
We tried to get the situation investigated BEFORE the 2008 election. Back when it could have done some real good. Nobody listened! Did we expect anyone to simply believe us hook, line, and sinker? Of course not, but we rightly expected people such as yourself and our congressmen to spend at least a LITTLE effort in investigating what we knew.
We know all about all the court cases. We participated in them. What do you (or Donald Trump) know about them? Do you know for instance that the merits of our case have never been heard? Ever! All cases have been dismissed for lack of jurisdiction or standing. How can “We The People” lack jurisdiction or standing to enforce our own constitution? This in itself is as big a problem as the Obama Crisis itself. Our courts have failed to provide any sort of process or redress. This is unacceptable.
Do you know that there is at least one high-profile political prisoner? A highly respected and decorated Army Officer is currently behind bars for no more than simply asking THE question. Is that acceptable in a constitutional republic?
There are credible sources who understand all this. Professional people who are way ahead of you and Donald Trump. Please don’t start from scratch and replow all that has been known for over two years. Seek out these people – or let them get through and talk to you.
Please. For the sake of our country and our constitution.
Powers called Donald Trump’s questions about BHOzo’s BC lies. According to BHOzo, his supposed father was a Muslim. I would expect his BC would list him as a Muslim. Wouldn’t a Muslim father insist that his son be referred to as a Muslim?
Do we know if his father was around when he was born? If not, maybe his mother listed him as a Caucasian on the BC?
Who knows? That’s the problem!
Trump is providing a service to the American people. We have a right as their boss to satisfy our concerns. If he has paid 2 billion in legal fees to keep this from us I WANT TO KNOW WHY!
Birth certificates don’t list religion.
In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.
...a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?
It doesn’t matter what the US allowed. Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenship. If Obama was a citizen of Indonesia his parents would have HAD to renounce his US citizenship. In order to attend school there he HAD to be a citizen of Indonesia and he DID attend school there so what does that tell you.
Correction: Comment#30 should have been openthreads.wordpress.com
So sorry.
Message to GLENN BECK.
Please Glenn, use your talents to start a conservative TV network that is not afraid to report real FACTS!
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