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To: okie01
>>Indonesia may have considered him a citizen, but he had not lost his birthright under U.S. law.<<

It doesn’t matter what the US allowed. Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenship. If Obama was a citizen of Indonesia his parents would have HAD to renounce his US citizenship. In order to attend school there he HAD to be a citizen of Indonesia and he DID attend school there so what does that tell you.

36 posted on 04/08/2011 5:21:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
If Obama was a citizen of Indonesia his parents would have HAD to renounce his US citizenship.

Makes no difference, whatsoever. He still had U.S. citizenship as far as the U.S. was concerned -- which is the only thing that counts in this issue. The U.S. was not -- and still is not -- bound by the citizenship laws of other countries.

Understand this, please.

42 posted on 04/08/2011 5:34:57 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: CynicalBear

If his mother renounced his US Citizenship while he was a minor child, he could simply reclaim it when he turned 18 by stating that it was not his intention to be an Indonesian citizen.

If, however, he made a positive affirmation, after age 18,
such as applying for an Indonesian passport as an adult or applying for student aid to Occidental as a foreign citizen, THEN he could have lost his Native born status.

I think his legal name, well into his 30s, was probably Barry Soetero, He just went by the too cool Barack Obama cause it sounded so “African”. I think he finally got around to correcting all the paperwork after his big speech in 2004 when he decided that he wanted to be President. However, to get everything fixed without leaving a trail was too complicated and there may have been some folks along the way who didn’t always want to co-operate. (Grandma Toots?)

I also suspect that’s the reason that he had to be sworn in twice. I think they explained to John Roberts that he was really born in the US but his legal name was still Barry Soetero and if Roberts raised a stink, he’d single-handedly bring about the biggest race war this country had ever seen....so he caved!


44 posted on 04/08/2011 5:36:43 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: CynicalBear

It doesn’t matter what the US allowed. Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenship. If Obama was a citizen of Indonesia his parents would have HAD to renounce his US citizenship.

One of three things, or a combination of these, has happened:

1) Parents not US citizens

2) Possibly born in Kenya

3) Renounced US citizenship when adopted by Indonesian father in order to attend school there. Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship at the time. Became naturalized at that point rather than natural born.

A person who becomes a U.S. citizen through naturalization is not considered a natural born citizen. Naturalized U.S. citizens are not eligible to become President of the United States or Vice President of the United States, which would ordinarily be the case as established by the Presidential Succession Act.

Also U.S.-born children of non-citizen parents are U.S. citizens by modern-day law, but there is unresolved doubt as to whether such children are Constitutional natural born citizens.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 5:40:20 PM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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