Posted on 04/08/2011 12:28:02 PM PDT by Music Producer
An Open Letter to Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh
Dear Mr. Trump and Mr. Limbaugh: I am addressing you both because I believe the two of you are most integral to getting this controversy properly resolved; and, yes, Rush, I concur with the caller who reminded you of your shirking this issue when it really mattered most. I was the chairman of a now-defunct national organization that existed in 2008-09 that attempted to bring this fraud to the forefront (yes, we were the original birthers). We had members across the country send emails, certified letters, and make telephone callsfirst, to the electoral college members, then to the members of Congress, and ultimately to every sitting state governor. Additionally, we tirelessly tried to get the conservative media on board with us; but it seemed a veil of evil was keeping our efforts from reaching the synapses of the collective brain of those whom we normally trust to think logically and in defense of our country and its Constitution.
Before continuing, please allow me to offer a hearty Bravo to you, Mr. Trump, for finally shedding some well-deserved light on this constitutionally grave issue.
That being said, and with the understanding that you are both highly intelligent men, please allow me to proffer an opinion about how you could unquestioningly even the odds of the truth's prevailing. Obama is also a very intelligent man, and I believe he has orchestrated this SHELL GAME to his vast benefit. He continues to convince the doltish masses that the pea is his birth certificate, and has spent large sums to promulgate that deception. But, what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth? Since he controls whether or not that document is ever seen, he can continue the game ad infinitumfor he is master of the game's outcome. Moreover, by doing so, he misdirects the focus off the very thing that irrevocably ends the game.
I agree with you, Mr. Trump, that the birth certificate likely contains information Obama wants to keep hidden; however, if there's anything I have learned in life, it is that the term likely denotes lack of certainty. It is most unfortunate that Obama has been able to keep this issue in the arena of uncertainty, when there is another argument to be made that is a sure bet (and is precisely where this conman has been so crafty by keeping everyone asking about the birth certificate).
There are three constitutional qualifications to be president: to be at least 35 years of age, to have resided here for at least 14 years, and to be a natural born citizen. The Obama camp has wagered well that the majority of Americans simply do not know what the term natural born citizen means. There is actually a wealth of delineating information available, but to keep this communication succinct, historically, the definition is this: one who is born on our soil to two citizen parents. That definition can be found in Emmerich de Vattel's Law of Nations, which was the blueprint the framers used to craft our Constitution, and was the commonly understood definition at the time of framing. The fact that the term was used at all, along with the grandfather clause the framers used to eliminate that requirement for themselves, is enough for any logical thinker to understand their intent.
Barack Obama, Sr. was never a citizen of our country, which, at the time of Barack, Jr.'s birth, made him forever ineligible to hold the office of president (apart from a constitutional amendment changing the requirement). That half of the eligibility discussion is what Obama has been able to keep from public scrutiny with his masterful use of smoke and mirrors.
Yes, we DO need to see the birth certificate, but I believe we probably won't. And, what happens if we see it and it becomes a Geraldo Rivera/Al Capone fiasco? Who will look like a stooge then?
The issue, at this point, is not whether or not Obama is a U.S. Citizen, but that he is NOT a natural born citizen according to the historic definition of the termbecause his father was not a U.S. Citizen when junior was born. Case settled and closed.
So, I humbly implore both of you to defend the Constitution of our great nation by revealing to the public at large that Obama may, or may not, fulfill the requirement for half of the natural born citizen mandate, but that he unequivocally does not fulfill the requirement for the other half, and therefore, is ineligible to hold the office of president.
Thank you for your time.
Dean Haskins
Forest, VA
P.S. I produced some YouTube videos for that organization I chaired that our elected officials and the conservative media ignored:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7uuhHXs-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOA5WSUDmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
So, when you say he flubbed up the swearing in, it was because he knew he was ineligible - basically it wasn’t a proper “swearing in” on purpose? Just curious, because I hadn’t heard this before. I like Judge Roberts, however I’m very disappointed that they won’t take any of the birther cases.
So you quit listening to Rush based on your own false perceptions.
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Perhaps the situation is very Machiavellian. Does Obama’s camp have a dirty laundry hamper of Limbaugh and Limbaugh knows it?
“Take him off teleprompter and he stumbles around like a verbal drunk”.
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lol! Love the “verbal drunk” label! So true.
He’s nothing but a low class hustler.
I don’t know what exactly is being hidden.
Butterdezillion has had extensive contact with the Hawaiian Department of Health and their evasive manner in dealing with her and others making inquiries certainly indicated that they were hiding something Obama didn’t want made public. Just what remains, well, hidden.
This much she and others have been able to detect: a birth certificate was submitted but it was very late and incomplete. The BC was never signed off as accepted by the DOH. Obama himself amended the BC before becoming a candidate for the Presidency, but it was never submitted to a Judicial Court for review and approval, as is normal, and which would make the BC a legal document. So, to all intents and purposes, Barak H. Obama II does not have a legally recognized birth certificate.
What I believe - Grandma Dunham submitted a “birth certificate” so as to make it appear little Barry was born in the U.S. It is incomplete because she didn’t have enough information. But no one knows at this point except Obama.
Note: Stanley Ann Dunham Obama appears in the Seattle area mid-August of 1961, about ten days after Barry’s birth. She doesn’t know how to change a diaper.
As Trump has discovered, there doesn’t exist any record of Stanley Ann having stayed in a maternity ward in any Hawaiian hospital. So, where was his mother?
Obama feels enough fear on this issue to hide his mother’s passport information for the period 1961 - 1965. She renewed her passport in ‘65 - ‘66 for the 5-year renewal, which hints she had a passport for the period 1960 - 1965. No one (usually) acquires a passport unless they intend to travel to foreign destinations.
Wow - really? That's disappointing. He should mind his own business.
Yes. The curious thing is that IF Obama was born in Hawaii, then he is illegitimate. Because Hawaii, and the U.S. as a whole, does not allow someone to marry a second wife without divorcing the first.
IF Obama was born in the Coast Province, then the marriage could be considered legitimate, because the British authorities there had earlier agreed to recognize Sharia Law for Muslims residing in that province, and Sharia Law permits Muslims to have four wives.
Certainly there was no such thing as Sharia Law in Hawaii. And the case of the Mormons had earlier established that belonging to a religion that permitted multiple marriages would not be recognized within the United States.
Actually, I think that the chances that Obama was born in Hawaii are just about zero. But if he was, as the leftists all insist without any evidence, then he is the illegitimate son of a citizen of the British colony of Kenya. Not a natural born citizen.
But more likely not a citizen at all. But an illegal alien, British, Kenyan, and/or Indonesian.
what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth?
Sorry, I still don’t understand that reasoning. Due diligence is embarrassing? Unearthing buried evidence of SOME kind is the least reward here, and that reward does at least double-duty (the damage to Obama matched by the damage to LSM). Just don’t see the down-side. He’s the one who hasn’t released all relevant info. Or maybe, like most of the media, we’re just not supposed to look a *gift-horse* in the mouth. Is “wasting” our own time looking for the truth now a crime or proof of gravitas-lack?
We don’t know what is on the form, and, if it somehow shows he was born on US soil, then the birth certificate becomes a non-issue. I know, it’s a long-shot that there isn’t something damning on the form, but it still is a possibility. Just as a good trial lawyer never asks a question of which he is not 100% certain of the answer, the birth certificate has slight possibility of making us all look like fools (and nobody knows how slight that possibility actually is). The fact that his father was never a US citizen is a sure bet. We already know the answer to that one, so that is the issue that needs to be pressed.
“The fact that his father was never a US citizen is a sure bet. We already know the answer to that one, so that is the issue that needs to be pressed.”
Agree completely. But that one fact alone, a fact that he admits, is already part of the whole argument. I agree, too, that it’s not a good idea for prosecutor or defender to ask a question to which he doesn’t have the answer; but that’s not the way an investigative reporter goes about his work. Somewhere along the line he’s got to ask questions that lead to other questions—limiting, slowly & deliberately the unknown unknowns.
Rush, as powerful and wealthy as he is, couldn’t have pulled the birth certificate thing off.
It needed an outsider. Trump is probably the only one who can do it.
You hadn’t heard that the swearing in was botched and supposedly redone later?
It was a big deal then.
I had heard about it, but I live in Germany, and my mother died 2 days before Obama was inaugurated, so I wasn’t “tuned in” at the time. Is the “big deal” that Roberts purposefully botched it, or Obama did? And for what reason (what was the speculation at the time?) I really missed this, which is why your post caught my attention, and I asked you about it.
Well that explains it the. I am sorry about your mother. Actually Roberts botched it. Not surprising to me. probably means he has a conscience.
Supposedly it was redone in the WH later. But we did not see it live.
Sometime later Biden picked on Roberts and Obama acted upset with Biden. I can only guess Obama wanted it all to be dropped and Biden to just shut up about it.
Who knows what really happened concerning that. There are people who know. But they won’t talk about it.
Sorry about the goof ups in that post. I had a kitty in front of me. LOL
Excellent point My wife gave birth to our first child in 1962 and back then
you never left the hospital in less than one week.
Thanks! There are so many hidden things about this guy...hope it all gets revealed someday.
I watch the dittocam show on my Droid at work every day and was certainly tuned in when the called lambasted him. Rush looked terribly uncomfortable, complete with facepalm and then exasperation. I think the heat is getting to him.
I still love Rush and agree he (and all the others except for Savage) dropped the ball on what looks like low hanging fruit when it comes to the eligibility issue.
Go Trump! I respect a man with cahones.
Trump/West 2012
Rush has good instincts - he should watch this very closely. Trump's just trying to get the truth - and either way ( if Obama's playing teenage boy defending Mom - or he's doing a long con - or he's NOT a citizen - IT WON'T hurt Trump. He knows how to deal with this kind of stuff...
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