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To: ransomnote
“People are human, designs are made by humans, decisions - by humans, emergency responses - human again. Unless you talk to a vigorously pro nuke person who INSISTS that no one has EVER been harmed by it, we have the answers now and we are different blah blah blah. What I hear is - we still won’t acknowledge lessons learned and we will function with 100% precision -”

Courts are human, and they too they can't sentence someone because they might make a mistake also, right?!

What a bunch of ignorant relativistic gibberish.... Humans with a mind make decisions and realize that even waking up and driving to work poses a risk = (Magnitude x probability). They make decisions based on costs and benefits, where risks are considered. They weigh the alternatives and then make a pragmatic decision, something some people can't do anymore.

“Apparently you decline to acknowledge the catastrophic effects of Chernobyl in the documentary I linked to.

What is the credibility of this documentary? In a 20 year retrospective (International study) they talk about 32 - 50 dead from the immediate high level exposure and a “marginal” (As in statistically noticeable and with a probable correlation but not significant) increase in some diseases for those exposed after the incident around the reactor. BTW- Today Chernobyl is a sort of natural habitat with wild life all over the place. Yes, you can even take a tour: http://tourkiev.com/chernobyltour/

Seriously, I can't watch the video at work. What are they up to now? It was “HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WILL DIE!” Is it now “MILLIONS HAVE DIED?” 32-50 vs. millions, just a slight variance.

“Actually I was specific about nuclear pollution “ Pollution by definition as used in the eco vernacular is the consequence of any human activity. To the eco crowd the goal is minimization of any human impact of their green tree goddess, not the safety and well being of humans.

“And the links of how Russian’s treat nuclear wastes “
That highly dangerous and scary waste comes from where? Buddy, what do you think they mine in places like Uranium City Canada? Nuclear power is straight from mother earth herself. Go green, go nuclear! There, I used the word “green,” feel better about it now? If I took all the evil waste and ground it up and simply sprinkled it all over the nation, dilution itself would take care of the issue. The so called waste and other fissile material is largely (like 99.9%) from the earth in the first place! Simply more concentrated.

“long histories of death and illness destroy your assertion that there are x number deaths from coal and X number deaths from gas etc. but look at how safe nuclear energy is! “ Very safe, and unlike you, he can back his claim with real numbers, not imaginary ones.

” being permanently uninhabitable “ What planet do you live on? Hell, Trinity test site where they lit a nuke would be safe to live at were in not still an active range. It's open twice a year to visit BTW: http://www.nmts.org/rides/trinitySite.htm (I know, it's a conspiracy and it's actually really really dangerous....... but they don't want us to know! They revised the numbers downward) In all your “open mindedness” if you were interested, they do the tours twice a year, very nice: http://nuclearmuseum.org/

“There’s the attitude in Japan, Russia, and on this board that presupposes that normal people are simply incompetent and incapable of understanding information so the information is not given to them.” Let me ask you this, doesn't the hysteria in our media, the ignorant ideas surrounding nuclear power, weapons etc sort of prove they are right? If they gave tours of the power plant near where I live (Comanche Peak) someone like you might chain himself to a cooling tower.

“It’s quite disturbing to hear those interviewed on the Youtube series assert that no human deserves to go through what they went through - “ Rational people look for correlations, risks and find pragmatic solutions to problems affecting them. I hope my children don't die from a vaccine, the probability that something could happen and that this includes death is real. Does that mean I should not vaccinate them? After all, I hope they never have to go through what some of those people suffer and die from when they do react to these vaccines in various ways.

You make no sense....... Why don't you go talk about your “feelings” to a grief counselor, after all you appear to be stricken hard by those pictures from Japan and Chernobyl video's that are so scientific and factual.

47 posted on 04/05/2011 9:01:50 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

Oh Red6 - Remember me? I am the one who said I would scan for your close minded pre-biased straw man argument laden posts and skip them. So....skip!


48 posted on 04/05/2011 10:01:05 AM PDT by ransomnote
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