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1 posted on 04/04/2011 3:10:46 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

In India, it is 4700 for 4 years including Food, supervision, and Boarding.

Before Americans scoff, these people are being hired left and right by Fortune 500 companies.

India could be the next great education outsource destination.


2 posted on 04/04/2011 3:13:04 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kaslin
Fix the problem that all students have, which is paying big bucks for text books.
5 posted on 04/04/2011 3:17:20 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Kaslin
Why not skip all the expense and just do what Obama did. Buy a degree with Saudi money and phone it in?
6 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:11 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Kaslin

bump for later


7 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:29 PM PDT by BallparkBoys (Rush is the Jack Bauer of American politics)
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To: Kaslin

Freeeee college! Yeah, you betcha.

Except the only thing they’ll need to know by then will be how to speak Chinese.


8 posted on 04/04/2011 3:20:09 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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It's gone up 500% since 1980 for the same reason housing prices went up; cheap, easy loans.

The cheap loans allowed the universities to overcharge the non-minority kids to provide "scholarships" to the minority students, most of whom never graduate.

As long as the federal government is involved in who gets loans and why, our economy and entire way of life will be forever screwed.

10 posted on 04/04/2011 3:20:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("...crush the bourgeoisie... between the millstones of taxation and inflation." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Kaslin
How much should a college education cost?

How much is it worth to you?

12 posted on 04/04/2011 3:23:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

Let me offer a brief anecdotal observation from someone who has been to college five times since 1974.

The first time around, college was difficult. Classes were tough. People “washed out.” The second time around, classes were somewhat difficult, and counseling was offered to those who couldn’t make it. The third time around, classes were easy, and no one really failed, so no one had to drop out unless they had financial problems. The fourth time around, classes were blindingly stupid, the professors were ideologues, and the only way you got less than an A was being a white male student.

In an interesting turn of events, I’m now earning a master’s degree online. The cost is one-fourth of the same courses at the University of Alaska - Fairbanks (number four on the list) and one-third the cost of the University of Oregon (number two on the list). The courses are moderately difficult, and since everything takes place online, there appears to be none of the skin color fetish I’ve witnessed at other colleges. The degree program is worth the $5,000 I’m paying.

Online college is a lot like homeschooling for elementary and secondary students. At the right institution, I’d recommend it.

Just my two cents.


13 posted on 04/04/2011 3:23:50 PM PDT by redpoll
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My son saved a lot of money by attending community college, then finishing at an in-state public school for two years. With all the money he saved, he was able to afford a masters at a highly regarded private school.


14 posted on 04/04/2011 3:24:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kaslin
After looking at the size of major university endowment funds, (in billions)
you have to wonder WTH are they doing with all that money ...
and why are they charging such outrageous prices?

20 posted on 04/04/2011 3:35:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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If the kid graduates, after having spent $100-200,000, his parents lost their nest egg OR he will be faced with paying back those expensive loans while working at some dinky job. There are very few jobs that actually REQUIRE anything you learned in undergraduate school today, anyway. Yeah, employers want to see your degree, but only for as long as the guy at Subway wants to see your driver’s license.

Undergrad degrees are NOT worth the money. They have become 13th through 16th grades.

I would think that if you went to a company and showed the boss how you completed all the required courses online and took CLEP tests and proved it, the boss should be impressed that you have already proven you could save money, which every company wants to do.

And $100,000 is way too much money to party and have hot sex on roofs. You could get a job anywhere and do all that for free.


22 posted on 04/04/2011 3:44:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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How much should a college education cost? Somewhere in the neighborhood of $40,000 dollars.

If they dropped all the BS courses and BS professors Like Bill Ayres and his wife, Angela Davis, Karenga who invented Kwaanza, who teach stuff like Black History. Socialism, Arab studies,If they dropped al those feel good liberal BS courses , and teach what is needed it could easily cut the costs.

25 posted on 04/04/2011 3:47:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Colleges and Universities want to indoctrinate people. Not make it affordable. The education system is a mess.


34 posted on 04/04/2011 4:24:19 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Kaslin

Without moral and ethical education and standards college is a contagious mortal plague of secularism. It destroys the host.


35 posted on 04/04/2011 4:26:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Kaslin

Bill Gates is right in only a superficial theory of a fantasy that ignores key human natures.

Here’s a clue: College today is about the sports team or the Ivy name branding. Social aspects. Not at all about education.

Will Gates set a Microsoft policy that colleges history is to be forcefully ignored, if not counted negatively, in hiring? Let him back up his delusional fantasies with real action, and learn the outcome of the experiment.


36 posted on 04/04/2011 4:31:48 PM PDT by bvw
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Ive been “attending” Khan Academy http://www.khanacademy.org/ for the past few days, trying to learn the Calculus which I missed 45 years ago - I was too busy “being a college student” to study!

I’ve also “taken” a few of the MIT classes via YouTube. It is great to find this article and the link to the MIT OpenCourseWare!

Next step is to go to the town mayor and a realtor to see if we can get a long-term-vacant strip mall building to use as a free/lowcost “I Am Hungry For Learning” academy using Online Courses and out of work professionals as mentors.

Need to add a bunch of W. Edwards Deming’s quality teaching. We will pull ourselves out of this recession by demonstrating to potentially relocating businesses that we have a workforce eager to learn & produce quality products.

There IS a way to do it!


37 posted on 04/04/2011 4:40:28 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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38 posted on 04/04/2011 5:08:34 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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And the realization of Bill Gates's vision of free online higher education will surely be followed by new credentialing systems that allow people who learn online to prove their accomplishments and signal their value to employers.

I hope that's true.

39 posted on 04/04/2011 5:49:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (We have lives.)
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To: Kaslin
The Massachusetts Institute for Technology has already put all of its instructional materials, including lectures, online and made it available for free. Other schools, including many elite universities, are following suit. For example, using iTunes University, you can already download free lectures from Stanford, Yale, and dozens of other colleges.

All this is great. But there is a difference between finding information and acquiring knowledge and understanding. I've read a lot of posts from Freepers who understand this. Those just graduating from public school do not. They do not know how to learn so much as they know how to find things on the internet. I wonder what is going to happen when those who have cut & pasted their way to an education have to work and apply what they say they know.
43 posted on 04/04/2011 6:37:59 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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