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Solving the College Affordability Problem
Townhall.com ^ | April 4, 2011 | Dan Lips

Posted on 04/04/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/04/2011 3:10:46 PM PDT by Kaslin
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In India, it is 4700 for 4 years including Food, supervision, and Boarding.

Before Americans scoff, these people are being hired left and right by Fortune 500 companies.

India could be the next great education outsource destination.


2 posted on 04/04/2011 3:13:04 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

That is what it should costs, and would cost if the government got out of the business of paying for it and the schools actually had to compete for students.


3 posted on 04/04/2011 3:16:50 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: dila813
India could be the next great education outsource destination.

Even better, we could keep all the Indians in India, and the Chinese in China and out of American Universities and that would lower the cost quite a bit. Supply and demand and all that.

4 posted on 04/04/2011 3:17:04 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Kaslin
Fix the problem that all students have, which is paying big bucks for text books.
5 posted on 04/04/2011 3:17:20 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Kaslin
Why not skip all the expense and just do what Obama did. Buy a degree with Saudi money and phone it in?
6 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:11 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Kaslin

bump for later


7 posted on 04/04/2011 3:19:29 PM PDT by BallparkBoys (Rush is the Jack Bauer of American politics)
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To: Kaslin

Freeeee college! Yeah, you betcha.

Except the only thing they’ll need to know by then will be how to speak Chinese.


8 posted on 04/04/2011 3:20:09 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: triumphant values

The majority of the students from India and China were already hired by US Companies, they are going back to school to get either the same degree they already have or to get a similar degree.

Most of the cost of schools have to do with all the costs associated with advancing the schools gravitas related to research etc....


9 posted on 04/04/2011 3:20:39 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kaslin
It's gone up 500% since 1980 for the same reason housing prices went up; cheap, easy loans.

The cheap loans allowed the universities to overcharge the non-minority kids to provide "scholarships" to the minority students, most of whom never graduate.

As long as the federal government is involved in who gets loans and why, our economy and entire way of life will be forever screwed.

10 posted on 04/04/2011 3:20:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("...crush the bourgeoisie... between the millstones of taxation and inflation." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: lormand

100-200k is just the tuition, books are extra.


11 posted on 04/04/2011 3:22:38 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kaslin
How much should a college education cost?

How much is it worth to you?

12 posted on 04/04/2011 3:23:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

Let me offer a brief anecdotal observation from someone who has been to college five times since 1974.

The first time around, college was difficult. Classes were tough. People “washed out.” The second time around, classes were somewhat difficult, and counseling was offered to those who couldn’t make it. The third time around, classes were easy, and no one really failed, so no one had to drop out unless they had financial problems. The fourth time around, classes were blindingly stupid, the professors were ideologues, and the only way you got less than an A was being a white male student.

In an interesting turn of events, I’m now earning a master’s degree online. The cost is one-fourth of the same courses at the University of Alaska - Fairbanks (number four on the list) and one-third the cost of the University of Oregon (number two on the list). The courses are moderately difficult, and since everything takes place online, there appears to be none of the skin color fetish I’ve witnessed at other colleges. The degree program is worth the $5,000 I’m paying.

Online college is a lot like homeschooling for elementary and secondary students. At the right institution, I’d recommend it.

Just my two cents.


13 posted on 04/04/2011 3:23:50 PM PDT by redpoll
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My son saved a lot of money by attending community college, then finishing at an in-state public school for two years. With all the money he saved, he was able to afford a masters at a highly regarded private school.


14 posted on 04/04/2011 3:24:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: dila813

“India could be the next great education outsource destination.”

India already is a growing source of outsourced medical care: surgeries there (performed by MDs just as qualified as US doctors) are 1/10 the cost.


15 posted on 04/04/2011 3:25:42 PM PDT by DrC
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To: lormand

When I got my BS in Microbiology 1980, an average, non-major, textbook cost $12-$15. At the time we thought that was excessive. All of my Microbiology courses at UNC were actually taught within the UNC School of Medicine, so you paid Medical School texbook costs. Those were exorbitant at $25.

Nowadays, with two daughters just out of college average textbooks go for in excess of $125 and up (and up and up). I haven’t a clue what Med School texbooks go for nowadays. I remember seeing the two volume set Texbook of Surgery going for an exorbitant $75 in 1980. I shudder to think what it goes for now. “sell the car honey, I need to get the Textbook of Surgery for next semester!!!”


16 posted on 04/04/2011 3:28:09 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: DrC

Yes, but the lead doctors have all been to US Schools and had practices in the US. As this expertise is transfered to India, look for this to change as well.

The only difference, luxury and the long plane flight.


17 posted on 04/04/2011 3:29:30 PM PDT by dila813
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To: DrC
No thanks, I will pass on Inderjit Singh wielding a knife on me.....
18 posted on 04/04/2011 3:30:13 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: dila813
The majority of the students from India and China were already hired by US Companies, they are going back to school to get either the same degree they already have or to get a similar degree.

Undergraduates? Really? When was the last time you were on a selective university's campus.

And I don't care if they are visa holders who already have jobs and going for further education. That just means there's two reasons to send them back.

19 posted on 04/04/2011 3:31:40 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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After looking at the size of major university endowment funds, (in billions)
you have to wonder WTH are they doing with all that money ...
and why are they charging such outrageous prices?

20 posted on 04/04/2011 3:35:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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