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Graham Responds to Steyn, Stuttaford - The South Carolina senator defends his comments about...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | April 4, 2011 | Robert Costa

Posted on 04/04/2011 2:24:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: upchuck

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81 posted on 04/04/2011 4:11:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The problem with the good general, and yes, I agree he’s a patriot, is that he went through four years at a U. S. service academy, testing ground for nearly all progressive experiments, and a career of service in the U. S. armed forces, testing ground for nearly all progressive experiments.

Sometimes, there are worse courses than the good man doing nothing about evil; there’s the good man knowing nothing about evil.


82 posted on 04/04/2011 4:12:56 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: TigersEye

You’re welcome. And personally I don’t believe a veteran has any more right to speak than a non-veteran.


83 posted on 04/04/2011 4:18:10 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: neverdem
Putting the troops in harm's way only matters if Jones were announcing troop movements. Burning a book that causes a rabble to incite violence if not the same thing. This would be like saying that burning an effigy of Hitler is worse than telling ship schedules to U-boats.

-PJ

84 posted on 04/04/2011 4:18:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Gene Eric

I posted my views on this yesterday elsewhere:

Many people in history have used the we are in a war argument for censoring comments or actions in support of the enemy of their country. Sen. Graham may be the first person in world history in any country to say, “Freedom of speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war” with the implication being that we should not be saying or doing things our enemy doesn’t like.

What a PC moron.


85 posted on 04/04/2011 4:32:23 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: nuconvert
“General Petraeus sent a statement out to all news organizations yesterday, urging our government to ban Koran burning”

I haven’t seen this statement.
Can someone locate it?

I can't. I think it safe to say Lindsay is lying.

I only found this:

International Security Assistance Force
2011-04-CA-003
ISAF Headquarters Public Affairs
KABUL, Afghanistan (April 3, 2011) – In view of the events of recent days, we feel it is important on behalf of ISAF and NATO members in Afghanistan to reiterate our condemnation of any disrespect to the Holy Qur'an and the Muslim faith. We condemn, in particular, the action of an individual in the United States who recently burned the Holy Qur'an.
We also offer condolences to the families of all those injured and killed in violence which occurred in the wake of the burning of the Holy Qur'an.
We further hope the Afghan people understand that the actions of a small number of individuals, who have been extremely disrespectful to the Holy Qur'an, are not representative of any of the countries of the international community who are in Afghanistan to help the Afghan people."

http://www.isaf.nato.int/article/isaf-releases/statement-by-isaf-commander-general-david-petraeus-and-nato-scr-ambassador-mark-sedwill.html

86 posted on 04/04/2011 4:37:47 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Terry Mross

It just occurred to me that Gen. Petraeus doesn’t give much respect to the prohibition on active duty personnel making political statements. That is a regulation that does make sense to me. It also seems to me that it is more important a rule for upper level personnel than it is the ranks. The principle behind it is what has separated us from the banana republic military juntas of the world.


87 posted on 04/04/2011 4:38:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: PghBaldy

Considering cross burning is not considered protected, the slippery slope has been crossed a while back. http://articles.cnn.com/2003-04-07/justice/scotus.cross.burning_1_ban-cross-cross-burnings-racial-intimidation?_s=PM:LAW


88 posted on 04/04/2011 4:40:29 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

‘He is so far up the bung hole of Betray us’

Lindseed is an idiot and should be replaced ASAP. General Petraeus, whom I respect as a commander, seems to be out of his depth on political and legal matters, and is clearly wrong in his statement. You, whom I normally respect as a Freeper, seem to be apprenticing for membership in Code Pink, in so far as your use of their rhetoric referring to the general.


89 posted on 04/04/2011 4:42:07 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; neverdem; upchuck; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; AuntB; calcowgirl; indylindy; ...
NRO: But don’t you understand the concerns about a U.S. senator determining the limits of free speech?

GRAHAM: Not really.

McLame's lap dog brazenly admits that she doesn't (and doesn't care to) understand the Bill of Rights.

FULG, you treasonous bastard!

90 posted on 04/04/2011 5:04:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


91 posted on 04/04/2011 5:06:45 PM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Liberty1970
They will then proceed to riot the next time a public figure makes a critical remark about Islam.

Or, they can riot until the Federals do whatever they want, including but not limited to ending freedom of religious practice and instituting Islam as the official religion of the United States.

This politically correct, wimpy pandering by our Vichy elected officials has go to stop...and stop NOW.

92 posted on 04/04/2011 5:10:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: neverdem
"So there are a lot of things under the guise of free speech that I think are harmful and hateful."

And he says he would outlaw.

SHAME!

93 posted on 04/04/2011 5:13:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The 0bamaNation of America slides toward death as planned.)
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To: JLS

His remarks are outrageous and worrisome. He needs to be rebuked on the Senate floor.


94 posted on 04/04/2011 5:13:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Cicero

Thanks for voting. It was 88% wrong and 12% correct when I posted. Graham won’t care, of course, as he’s arrogant enough to think he knows what’s best for us.


95 posted on 04/04/2011 5:13:52 PM PDT by South40 (Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

NRO: But don’t you understand the concerns about a U.S. senator determining the limits of free speech?

GRAHAM: Not really.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


96 posted on 04/04/2011 5:14:55 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The 0bamaNation of America slides toward death as planned.)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, Lindsay, let’s bite our tongues and make sure we don’t do anything that might irritate the ragheads. Heaven knows, it takes very little to cause them to engage in murder and mayhem as it is. And if we have to ditch our freedom of speech to mollify the ragheads, so be it, right, Lindsay? After all, we don’t want to “endanger our troops”. (You are saying that if we don’t insult them in any way our troops will then be safe, aren’t you, Lindsay?)


97 posted on 04/04/2011 5:22:57 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: neverdem; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
Linda, yer done for. This will be your Waterloo. The tipping point from which you'll never recover.

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
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Just FReepmail me.

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98 posted on 04/04/2011 5:24:20 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: South40

Thanks for posting that poll. Currently 97 to 3 that Linda screwed up big time.


99 posted on 04/04/2011 5:25:42 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: mrsmith

That’s all I could find, too. So, anyone jumping on Gen. Patraeus for “ urging our government to ban Koran burning”, should take a step back, unless they can find more.
Thanks.


100 posted on 04/04/2011 5:30:16 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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