Boehner Plans to Pass Spending Cuts With GOP Help Alone (Conservatives will end up with nothing!)

Fox News ^ | 4/3/2011 | ap

[tobyhill]

Sometimes in politics and legislation, whether you win is less important than how you win.

That's the dilemma facing House Speaker John Boehner as he tries to round up the votes to pass a fast-approaching spending compromise and avert a partial government shutdown by week's end.

Boehner, R-Ohio, wants the overwhelming majority of those votes to come from his fellow Republicans, even if dozens of easily attainable Democratic votes could help carry the budget bill to victory.

The goal complicates Boehner's task, and possibly could push the bill farther to the right. It motivates him to battle for the votes of conservative Republicans who are demanding deeper spending cuts, and greater changes to social issues such as abortion access, than the Democratic-controlled Senate and President Barack Obama say they can accept.

If Boehner can argue convincingly that it's the only route to House passage, Democrats conceivably could yield on some points they might otherwise win. At the same time, however, Boehner is trying to persuade Republicans that some compromise is inevitable.

[freeangel]

Goodbye bonehead—don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

[FrankR]

[tobyhill]

Conservatives won't see $100 billion in cuts. We will continue to see Obamacare being implemented. We will still feel the regulations of the EPA. There will be no new drilling for our own oil. Planned Parenthood will still be doing abortions on taxpayers dime. Corporation for Public Broadcast will still be spewing their Liberal crap while taking taxpayer's money. Food prices will still go up because “Green” idiots love corn, in a gas tank. And so on and so on.

I hate to sound pessimistic but ole crybaby Boehner has given me no reason to even be even an ounce of optimistic.

[shadeaud]

Thugs in Chicago must have Boehner’s family threatened.

[4rcane]

Boehner really is stuck on stupid. We’re not going to compromise and split the baby in half.

[mazda77]

How does one threaten someone who is too stupid to know the difference?

[tobyhill]

I don't know if we can stop him. Just as we thought we weeded a good chunk of RINOs out, they grew again and some of those are looking like the same Freshman Republicans that we put in.

[mo]

These guys don’t understand “cuts” versus “gangrenous amputation”.....

[PowderMonkey]

Compromise? Do it, Boehner, and I'm through with you and the Republican party. We sent you guys to Capitol Hill to fight. We didn't send you there to make “deals.” We stand at the crossroads of history, and all the Repubs can do is maintain the status quo. Business as usual.

[BobP]

Goodbye bonehead—don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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Right you are freeangel!

Time to step up Republicans!

John 'el-FOLD-o the Clown' Boehner stuck on stupid.

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And as for the Pharaoh President - henceforth to be known as Ready, Fire, Aim, Barry - here's the latest:

''America is on the mend. My 2012 budget is a responsible approach that puts the nation on a path to live within our means so we can invest in our future. That's right, we're forging ahead, escaping this sub-prime malaise. Ben will fully implement QE2 – the latest $600 billon bout of money-printing - following the $1.7 trillion program already completed! Wasn't that easy how we monetized the debt (deficit financing now is the Fed buying treasuries).

Let me tell you, we are the world's largest debtor, with federal liabilities of $9.1 trillion. And there's much more to come.

But we have no reports today that my plan is the most irresponsible spending plan in our lifetimes or that it will worsening our fiscal nightmare. We also have no reports of several counties in America with home vacancy rates above 55%. And no reports of Vice President Biden performing financial castration on companies extracting profits from their business activities.

I'm proud to announce the biggest single thing the federal government does these days is cut checks. A record amount of government payouts -- including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance -- now make up more than a third of total wages and salaries of the US population. And here's another whopping-big check soon to be cut. I'm sending Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to Honolulu to discuss a $5.5 billion commuter rail project. That'll rev up this economy for those union Democrats in Hawaii. And at the end of the first quarter of fiscal 2011, the federal government has $1 trillion in an untapped Piggy Bank.

Looking back at the federal deficit for February 2011, it marks the 29th straight month the government has run in the red — a modern record. If we divide that monthly record of $223 billion by the 28 days of February we get $7.9 billion in new debt per day.

So the Senate Democrats touting their $4.7 billion in spending cuts as fiscally responsible, or the GOP's trumpeted budget cuts, are equivalent to the amount the debt increased in any given 13 hour period of any day in February. By the way, my Libyan war will also wipe out any cuts -- in truth the cost of a Happy Meal could wipe out your budget cuts. House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) says the Federal budget may not be balanced for 20 years. Steny should know, he helped dig the hole. But here's where we really shine... Surging oil prices along with my new spending plan gives me evidence that we, the world's biggest oil importer, are fit, healthy and ready to spend our way 'out of this.

I don't care what you have to say as long as I can continue to add new debt long enough to get us passed the point of no return.

With regard to healthcare, let me repeat: your guaranteed Medicare benefits won't change. First of all, if you've got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan.

And finally, as to GE's zero tax liability... it's a legitimate demonstration of the positive reinforcement needed to inspire businesses to cooperate in the implementation of my agenda for change. There have to be incentives to distinguish between our friends and enemies when it comes to policy. Presidents going back to FDR have used the IRS and its authority over taxes to help provide the type of incentives that corporations can appreciate.

Now please go back to your business as usual, and just relax. When we see a flicker of a problem, we'll say something.''

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Hope and Change.... Tragic.

When the tipping point exposes the country as bankrupt these socialists will eventually declare an emergency - a WWII style 'bond drive' - and start collecting private savings and retirement accounts, etc., as a down-payment on the debt. Appealing to a patriotic sense of duty. That is essentially what happened to Weimar Germany and Austria after WWI leading up to the 1923 collapse. Citizens rushed to buy government 'war bonds' as a safe haven against other dwindling investments, only to have the war bonds collapse in value as the mark and kroner rapidly depreciated in value as the government's printed more and more money to cover their debts. The result being that people had no assets (economic resources) and zero purchasing power.

[Repeal The 17th]

All is not as dreary as you interpret it from the article:
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Boehner wants the votes to come from Republicans, even if dozens of Democratic votes could help carry the bill.

The goal could push the bill farther to the right.

It motivates him to battle for the votes of conservative Republicans who are demanding deeper spending cuts, and greater changes to social issues such as abortion access.

Democrats could yield on some points they might otherwise win.

Both parties say Boehner probably could assemble 218 votes easily, if he didn’t care who cast them.

Obama objects to cuts that would undermine economic growth.
Obama said shutting the government would hurt the economy just as it’s beginning to create jobs.
Biden has begun to press for a deal.
Biden said Friday that compromise was within reach.

Boehner said Saturday that “there is no agreement”.
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[jwparkerjr]

I've said before and I'll say again, this is like one of those bad dreams where you know what's going to happen and feel powerless to stop it. You watch it in agonizingly slow motion as it unfolds exactly the way you fear it will.

If it were me I would give them there CR, but only for a short time again and then I would get busy on the 2012 budget with the avowed intent to stop not only another CR but also the debt limit hike unless I got what I wanted, or darn near it.

To play the devil's advocate here, when these new guys were elected it wasn't to deal with the 2011 budget, at the time of the election it was thought their first opportunity to impact spending and borrowing would be the 2012 budget.

Having said that though I am furious that they are letting a golden opportunity to force their will on the Dems slip away like this. The only conclusion I can come to is that they don't really believe what they are preaching, that business as usual will bring about a collapse of the system.

I really didn't expect much more from Boner, he's all talk no action, all bark no bite, all hat no cattle, and so on. Let's see how the new boys and girls on the block handle this. THEY are the ones we put our faith in last Nov. My guess is they will be none too happy, but I'm not sure there's enough of them to change it.

We are approaching the point that the ONLY way to put a stop to the madness if for the system to collapse, totally. Then we can start over. My biggest fear is the system will indeed collapse, but we won't have the guts to fix it right.

[Louis Foxwell]

The Republican party has been given its last chance to step up to the plate and become the party of Lincoln once again. If they fail this time they will be defunct. The American people will no longer tolerate spineless cowardice in the face of vicious contempt for all that is good and holy about our nation.

[tobyhill]

I’ve seen this Kabuki Dance way too many times and way too many times Conservatives get nothing in return.

[DemforBush]

I’m really disappointed with the new Congress. I expected the Senate GOP to act this way (The Senate is the ultimate snooty-elitist club, IMHO), but I had hoped The House GOP would stand stronger than this.

We’re out of money. We’re out of money and running the biggest deficit in the recorded history of mankind. What part of that do they not understand?

I get that the GOP doesn’t want to play into Obama and the DNC’s hands. But they need to “get” that this isn’t 1996. And they also need to get that there will be more tea brewing come the next election if they don’t do the job they were sent to do.

Grrr!

[ballplayer]

Dittos,you are right on. The only speck of hope in this article is that the Republicans Couls seek a New Leader,I Nominate Michelle Bachman,Goodbye Boner!Let the Democrats pass what they want ,we voted for The Republicans to stop The Insanity and Suicide,Not Compromise with the Devil

[DManA]

The miniscule cuts they are going for are so irrelevant compared to the problem it’s not worth fighting over. The nothing the Republicans are offering is better than the nothing the Democrats want. Big deal.

[rodguy911]

Where is the pathway to accomplish all this with Dingy Harry still in full control of the Senate and zero as potus? I just don’t get it.How do we get it done?

[tobyhill]

Either don’t make promises you can’t keep or be prepared to shut it down as promised.