This thread is a disgrace.
Posted on 04/01/2011 11:45:47 PM PDT by Ordinary_American
I think now is the time to do some community organizing of our own and begin a public "mass assault" on the issue to prove that we are not just a "small bunch of nuts".
One simple thing we can do easily, among hopefully many others, is to click "Trump" on any online Presidential candidate poll we encounter. Supporting Trump publicly will send a message.
I think we need to start identifying and executing tactics like that in support of a strategy of wanting to know the truth about Barack Obama now.
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commies must be laughing at the usa because obama didn’t get cut off at the party convention level by the natural born citizen issue. i mean if a body with as much clout as hillary! won’t rattle that skeleton in his closet, how much hope does a poor conservative dweeb have?
trump has infinitely more business smarts than bummer. if you wanted sage advice about how to bring usa business back on its feet, trump would be the guy to go to. that doesn’t mean he needs to be president, though. maybe secretary of commerce?
A close relative of mine is a past-president of the NYC Chamber of Commerce. Anyway, this relative’s interactions with the real life Trump are exactly what one expects from a spoiled brat. The kind of brat that would take his bat and go home if he didn't get five strikes to everyone else's three in the sandlot ball game.
Cheers,
OLA
i guess with his zillions of dollars he knows he can always make an offer in the private realm that can’t be refused. but that does not work in politics or government and trump knows that. hey, when the msm pundits called him on his first birth certificate he did furnish a second one eh? already he has complied more with public opinion than the bummer has!
This thread is a disgrace.
“Wrong” certificate by error? This birth certificate situation is a well crafted, cheap publicity stunt for a MSM attention whore.
Frankly, if Trump was in any position of governmental trust, all the “best players,” wary of how Trump plays ball, politely decline any opportunity to play with Trump again. Leaving only the Donnie’s “groupies” ready, willing, and able to play ball.
Cheers,
OLA
The ignorance in this country is all by design and it’s working like a charm.
Yup, and Uncle Karl was a hell of a designer.
Plank 10 from the Communist Manifesto
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Now just what would (or more accurately ‘has’) a commie teach (taught) those ‘publicly educated’ children? Gee...I wonder...
This is the case with so many issues..Until we go door to door, most people will not know. Many people are too engrossed in trying to survive or they are too naive to grasp the government/media schemes which are destroying our nation. One more thing..The drug culture is out there draining the grey matter from more people than you could ever imagine..Even antidepressants numb the mind.
Am I correct in thinking you flew A-10’s?
Given your “name,” it appears so.
Where? When? (I am an ex hawgdriver. . .RAF Bentwaters)
“let’s start out by all agreeing it is not about where he was born or if he is a citizen. The question is: Is he a natural born citizen? The anti’s try to confuse and diffuse the issue by mixing up the questions.”
Correct. This is the key issue.
Good luck with that! The public schools are turning out kids who can barely read and do simple arithmetic. Critical thinking is not on the agenda. After all, how would the Marxists have a population of useful idiots if they actually educated the children.
““Clicking Trump” is a terrible idea. I hope people think that idea through....”
And just why do you say that? It may be helpful to add just a bit of factual support to your position.
Cheap? It was a very rich gotcha for the MSM if he planned it. I suppose if he has bitter enemies the MSM is among them — so blind with hate at the Donald they couldn’t even see THIS coming.
What became apparent to me during the last presidential race is that the MSM is as leftist as Obama. I think I remember Rush talking about the vetting process would expose him for who he was and not to worry, but that didn't happen. There were those on the right who tried to scream from the rooftops who he was, but their voices were heard only by those on the right. My husband's boss is way left in his political leanings and when my husband mentioned something about Obama's past, he said something like, "Obama was vetted, Obama was vetted." We know better. Joe the plumber came the closest to "outing" him to the MSM, but the MSM ended up vetting Joe the Plumber instead of Obama.
WITFBC
All good ideas posted here....
Still, the biggest problem with the Obama Eligibility issue is those Phony-Cons who are siding and helping Obama....people like Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Andrew Breitbart, Bill O’Reilly, and others who have attacked anyone raising Obama Eligibility
We have too many of our own peeing inside the tent
When we have so-called conservatives helping the Liberals on this issue...we have to neutralize those people first. We can do this by not supporting their shows or publications....using their e-mail/comments/message boards to push the issue....and even go after their sponsors
We know the Left will cover and protect Obama....the problem is that those who supposedly are conservative are covering for him, too.
When Donald Trump is out-conservative-ing you on an issue....you had better check your conservatism.
I don't understand those who say this is a side issue and there are other things to attack him on. The obfuscation of this by Obama and his handlers is a part of the puzzle which is Obama. To leave it out is to not understand him. This is why I don't understand why Glenn Beck, who seems to pride himself that his ADD helps him connect the dots, which he loves to do, doesn't add this "dot" into his mix.
“Correct. This is the key issue.”
It isn't about where he was born? I think (I know) to be NBC you need to be born in the United States. So, we might want to know where he was born.
It is not about if he is a citizen? I think (I know) to be NBC you need to be a citizen.
To prove or disprove NBC you need to know where a person was born and the citizenship of the parents at that time.
Who is Barack Obama’s legal birth father?
You answer: Barack Obama Sr.
What PROOF do you have of this?
You answer: his COLB (the same COLB which you won't allow as proof of birth and say is forged?), his books (the same books which you say Bill Ayers really wrote?), his statements (I think he was a little young at his birth to remember). etc. etc.
Is he over 35 years old? What PROOF do you have of this?
The real answer is we WILL need BOTH. His LEGAL long form official birth certificate, may obviously prove he is ineligible, DONE, OVER, STOP RIGHT THERE.
If not, we will then have the evidence, (or not, depending on who his father is). Then the proceedings can begin on our way to the Supreme Court which will have to rule on the meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”. We have a strong case in my opinion, BUT you never know what the supremes will do. Also, you will have the problem of the justices appointed by Obama. If he is not NBC, they are not legitimate justices and would have no authority on this case. This in itself should win the case for us. The left will not just lay down on this. This route will open a can of worms that may take years to sort out and the outcome may not be what we hope.
While I am 100% in support of proving NBCship, the REAL birth certificate is:
1. Easy for the public to understand
2. May settle the Obama problem immediately.
3. Necessary (REQUIRED) to determine NBCship
Make him live up to his own book of rules...
“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”
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