I don't buy into the climate warming thing, but the fish biology is fascinating.
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To: smokingfrog
If salmon are so darn sensitive, one wonders how they ever came to survive to the modern day. Surely this isn’t the only “global warming” within memory of fishdom?
To: smokingfrog
Then they killed the fish and examined their muscles and hearts.Yeah, I understand that's even worse for the fish than global warming...
3 posted on
03/31/2011 10:52:58 PM PDT by
Flycatcher
(God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
To: smokingfrog
So how do the sockeye in rivers far further south and much warmer... still seem to make it work?
4 posted on
03/31/2011 10:55:14 PM PDT by
Ramius
(Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: smokingfrog
People in the media are still trying to push this Gore-bull Warming BS? That is sooooo last decade...
5 posted on
03/31/2011 10:57:16 PM PDT by
Carling
(Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
To: smokingfrog
So, as I understand it, after tissue samples are baked, flash frozen, treated with acid and liquified in a blender, there is microscopic damage to the cells, which can be directly linked to “climate change”...
11 posted on
03/31/2011 11:27:43 PM PDT by
jonascord
(The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
To: smokingfrog
On other words, they want to cut fishing salmon and raise prices significantly.
13 posted on
03/31/2011 11:39:23 PM PDT by
theDentist
(fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
To: smokingfrog
Salmon have survived for millions of years through far warmer climates but not a half degree Centigrade increase now? LOL
14 posted on
03/31/2011 11:43:30 PM PDT by
TigersEye
(Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
To: smokingfrog
18 posted on
04/01/2011 12:27:44 AM PDT by
taxesareforever
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20 posted on
04/01/2011 12:41:49 AM PDT by
smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog
“To get a better read on the situation, Eliason and her colleagues intercepted salmon on their way up the river and put them through their paces in swim tanks. They'd “crank up” the temperatures and water current in the tanks to test the fishes’ swimming performance and metabolic and heart rates, says Eliason.”
Amazing! The fish are near death and will die after spawning but somehow putting them in a tank of hot water and forcing extra work upon them is not going to increase their metabolic and heart rates beyond normal? Really.
21 posted on
04/01/2011 2:07:12 AM PDT by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: smokingfrog
But it’s a BS conclusion.
I’ve caught Silver salmon that were as shiny and bright as you could imagine - mirror shiny - around Thanksgiving, which is way, way past the peak time of the normal run.
And I’ve caught salmon in the rivers at the end of June. Much earlier than most would expect.
It varies year to year, species to species, and conditions to conditions.
Fourteen thousand years ago or so there were NO SALMON in the rivers in the Pacific Northwest because there were NO RIVERS in the Pacific Northwest - Seattle and Vancouver, BC. were both covered by a mile of ice.
If salmon in BC have a problem, it has a name. You can google it.
It’s called “Hells Gate”.
I saw it many years back and how even one single fish makes it past, I can’t imagine!
22 posted on
04/01/2011 2:18:03 AM PDT by
djf
(Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
To: smokingfrog
I guess the Salmon are happy todaysince it is snowing in April.
23 posted on
04/01/2011 2:24:10 AM PDT by
bmwcyle
(It is Satan's fault)
To: smokingfrog
don’t worry - the record snowfall throughout the West will cool the ocean water with record floods and the fish will be chilly and happy again bless their scaley little gills
24 posted on
04/01/2011 3:00:36 AM PDT by
blueplum
To: smokingfrog
Let’s let the Canadians worry about it. The Salmon die after spawning anyway, so what’s the big deal. So much for this global warming crap.
25 posted on
04/01/2011 3:11:23 AM PDT by
chainsaw
To: smokingfrog
Build more dams. The water coming out of the bottom of a lake is colder than a shallow river.
Problem solved
26 posted on
04/01/2011 3:21:23 AM PDT by
hattend
(Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
To: smokingfrog
FUD... somehow these fish have survived numerous Ice Age cycles in the past. What makes them so incapable of surviving the next one? Just because we're pretending that we're causing it, rather than the planet's natural cycles?
Funny how they cannot survive a 1degree increase in temperature, but a particularly warm summer or colder winter that is 10-20 degrees outside of the normal ranges don't seem to present any problems for them. In 1998 and 1934, temps were both far more than 1 degree hotter than this year... so how did the fish survive??
27 posted on
04/01/2011 3:26:56 AM PDT by
Teacher317
(really?)
To: smokingfrog; FreedomPoster; Para-Ord.45; Entrepreneur; tubebender; mmanager; Fiddlstix; ...
Ever wonder why you never stop hearing about studies finding GW responsible for everything from kidney stones to cannibalism? Explains Richard Lindzen (Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT): "It's become standard that whatever you're studying, include global warming's effects in your proposal and you'll get your (government) funding."
Dr. John Brignell's WARMLIST
~A complete list of things caused by global warming.~
29 posted on
04/01/2011 4:02:08 AM PDT by
steelyourfaith
("Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips)
To: smokingfrog
Adapt or die! 99.9% of all the species that have ever inhabited this planet are extinct.
32 posted on
04/07/2011 11:55:53 AM PDT by
dfwgator
To: smokingfrog
Only sockeye salmon lovers should pay higher energy prices to be redistributed around the globe.
Me? I can survive without it, even if it tastes good.
33 posted on
04/07/2011 11:59:19 AM PDT by
dforest
To: smokingfrog
Only sockeye salmon lovers should pay higher energy prices to be redistributed around the globe.
Me? I can survive without it, even if it tastes good.
34 posted on
04/07/2011 11:59:29 AM PDT by
dforest
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