Posted on 03/28/2011 1:23:12 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
This, from an idiotic, narcissistic communist muslim. His education, birth and entire life before the Chicago sewer system is a murky mess.
Well he never released ANY OF HIS EDUCATIONAL RECORDS OR TRANSCRIPTS either, so perhaps he has his own reasons for thinking testing is boring, accountability unnecessary....
The solution should be to defund the entire No Child Left Behind program. I realize there is controversy over the effectiveness of standardized testing but it was the core of the entire program.If you keep funding the program without standardized testing than you simply have another pork spending program to benefit the teachers unions.
Well, maybe .... but in Colorado, the testing predated NCLB. In Texas, thanks to Mr. Ross f***ing Perot, the testing predated NCLB by more than a decade.
In Colorado, anyway, it was a bunch of Republicans who rammed the test through the legislature.
Agree:
The first standardized exam that my homeschoolers took was the Graduate Record Exam for entrance into graduate school. They started college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13, finished all general college courses and Calculus III by the age of 15. Two completed B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age 18. The oldest was equally successful in a highly competitive sport, and job, and he will soon finish his masters in accounting.
So....It is completely possible to have and adequate education without standardized testing.
Disagree:
The issue at hand are **government** schools. We're you aware that government school teachers have the lowest SAT and GRE scores on campus? They aren't the brightest bulbs on the academic shelf. The sharp and highly intelligent teachers that I had as a child are now physicians, attorneys, engineers, CEOs and a few are running for president of the U.S.A. ( etc.).
And...finally:
Where is the evidence that children learn anything in school? Really,...This is a serious question. We see standarized test scores for children and averages for schools...but...how much is learned **in the home** and how much knowledge is acquired in the school? Is it is possible that the only thing government schools do is send home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow in the home? Where are the studies that answer these questions?
Perhaps were are spending thousands per year per child on a government school program that is utterly ineffective. It is possible that if a child does learn ( or if the school has high standardize test scores) it is entirely due to the efforts of the parents and chidren outside of school and **in their homes**.
I ask these questions because I have never met an academically successful child who was not either “afterschooled” or homeschooled. Both sets of families have the similar values regarding the importance of education. Both groups of families have similar home habits and routines. Also...Both sets of children spend the **same** amount of time at the kitchen table or at the child's desk. ( Yes, I know this is anecdotal.)
When the No Child Left Behind monstrosity passed Congress, it was passed on party lines with Republicans supporting it and the Dems voting overwhelmingly against it. The Republicans, much like the Colorado legislature, were selling the idea of standardized testing creating accountabilty for teachers and school districts. The teachers unions were vociferously against it because it did create accountabilty. The Dems liked the idea of spending money but they were beholden to the unions and did not want any accountabilty through standardized testing. That is why the entire thing should be gutted because the Dems will eventually eliminate accountabilty and standardized testing and keep spending the money. That is precisely what Obama is doing now.
Bama is clearly projecting.
Everyone should be affirmative action’d into a Harvard JD.
So, my 3.9 GPA would be beaten by someones 2.0 as long as his or her Melanin level was higher?
Basically, I need to be a black left handed transsexual lesbian with a Spanish surname and several illegitimate kids to be of any worth in ZeroBama's Amerika.
Nothing was worse than spending an entire school year preparing for the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test.
Had to take it in... I believe 11th and 8th grades, and I think 4th or 5th graders get it too. In any event, you literally did nothing but prepare for that test.
Nothing worse for the bright and lazy.
Well, I appreciate the effort that you have been able to expend in the education of your children; their accomplishments are worthy of discussion as to the benefits of homeschooling. However, not everyone can do what you did. Not everyone can commit the time, or resources to homeshool, and not everyone who homeschools can effectively educated their children. That does not mean that I disapprove of homeschooling, and the issue of homeschooling had nothing to do with my post. I think that stating that government schools are all useless, and teachers are dumb, and your kids are smart because you homeschooled is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Saying that teachers are the bottom of the academic barrel just because they aren´t your local CEO is disingenuous. I know quite a few teachers, including my Mom, grandmother, and sister-in-law and most of her family, among many others- and I would not categorize them as “not the brightest bulbs.” In fact, a couple of them are the smartest people I know, including one who is the head of the Physics Dept. at a major university and travels the world lecturing on laser technology. On the other hand, I also know quite a few CEO´s, lawyers etc - and not all of them are very smart. In fact, many of the lawyers I´ve used (and fired one after the other) over the years couldn´t reason themselves out of a wet paper bag. I used to be a CEO - not a huge company, but $15 million a year in revenue; I quit my job to become a teacher - why? I felt my career did little to benefit anyone other than myself and the goals of my company. Call me crazy, but I actually want to contribute something to my community. Am I the smartest bulb in the box? Nope. But smart enough to graduate in the top 10 in my class at university and get straight A´s through grad school. Will that make me a good teacher? I hope so, but more likely it is my experience in the real-world that will give me an edge; schooling only provided the information and foundation, but not the skill.
I too hate the word “boring.” I don’t believe boredom exists.
I think it is used by kids as a catchall for anxiety or fear of being alone.
Paragraphs are your friend. It is difficult to read a solid block of dense writing.
And....You post is so filled with red herrings and strawmen arguments that it would be like chasing a roach around a kitchen counter.
And there's your problem..............
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